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March 8, 2016 at 4:44 pm #318479thedarkonedearieParticipant
Even if it’s not to have Regina turn back to being evil against the Charmings, but to set her against Zelena, how does that show any sort of honest character development?? Didn’t we do this already? Didn’t Regina contemplate ending Zelena back in 4B and decided she didn’t want to; hasn’t she had ample opportunity to kill Zelena and refrained because that’s not who she is anymore. And more to the point didn’t we have several (several!) seasons of seeing what happens to Regina when she loses the man she loves? The only difference here is that she’s not a stable princess, it’s not Snow White, and the man’s name isn’t Daniel.
If this is true, then I think it will have more to do with Zelena not being able to be redeemed, then Regina turning evil on her. I think for the sake of her child, and for the sake of her friends, if Zelena kills Robin, Regina may feel she has no choice but to kill her sister. It doesn’t mean Regina is going back to the dark side. It means Zelena cannot be saved and must die.
[adrotate group="5"]March 8, 2016 at 4:46 pm #318480thedarkonedearieParticipantJust because Regina is good now, doesn’t mean she can’t kill anyone if it’s justified. I think it would be completely in character to realize that Zelena cannot be redeemed and that Roland and her friends are not safe with her around, and therefore kill her.
March 8, 2016 at 4:53 pm #318482RumplesGirlKeymasterThen the show needs to have a conversation with itself and the audience about what justifiable homicide means–because Emma went super dark when she justifiably killed Cruella, as an example. You can’t just say “justifiable homicide” and call it a day. That’s a huge cultural, political, religious, and sociological conversation and OUAT tends to not be very good at those. Plus, if it’s the case that Regina has to take down Zelena “for the good of all” then someone needs to really press A and E what they mean by 1) family show (killing Neal, killing Robin, killing Zelena) and 2) what they mean by hope.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 8, 2016 at 5:01 pm #318486CorbinParticipantIf this is true, and Robin does die, I have no idea as to what their endgame is with Regina.
First, her first love is killed. Then, after believing she has to destroy Snow White, she kills her father. Later on, her first love comes back. She’s forced to kill him. Her mother comes back. She’s tricked to kill her. She finds her soulmate. He ends up having a child with her sister.
Then he dies.
This sends a strong message of misogyny, as the writers seem to have a horrible amount of fun with hurting Regina. What kind of message does that send? I’m not saying that they should tie Regina’s happiness to a man, but what’s the point of putting her through MORE pain and have her regress?
Also, there’s an eerie real-life parallel between Emma and Regina. If Robin dies, he’ll have died in the season he became a regular. The same happened with Neal, who died in Season 3.
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March 8, 2016 at 5:03 pm #318487RumplesGirlKeymasterAnd, along with what I wrote above, if Zelena will be killed in S6 because she’s the equivalent of a loaded gun, then Hook, Rumple, and Regina all need to be killed as well. They are all loaded guns, who have shown themselves capable and willing to kill, maim, torture, corrupt, ect. If it’s justifiable to kill Zelena because she poses a danger to everyone, then it’s a double standard to not give the other villains (several of which have tried attempted murder very recently) the same treatment.
That’s what I mean by a conversation. If OUAT is going to make Regina kill Zelena for what she does (perhaps) to Robin and call it being the hero then they’re gonna need to extrapolate on why other villains aren’t being given the same treatment and how they, as writers and human beings, understand insanely complicated issues like murder and heroism.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 8, 2016 at 5:45 pm #318490MatthewPaulModeratorJust thought about something else. What if the death comes down to something budget related? Maybe they can’t afford to keep both Sean and Bex as series regulars, especially the way ratings are looking. I mean, we found it odd that both got promoted last Summer, when prior to Season 5 the max number of series regulars at a time was 9. Right now its 10. Given the way the ratings are, perhaps budget cuts occurred and something had to give.
March 8, 2016 at 6:46 pm #318494RainbowParticipantFunny that this comes the day after the funeral scene was shot. It’s like of their last one (with Neal returning) being posted the day after a photo popped up of MRJ being in Vancouver all over again.
This really screams Robin to me.
Yep and the article has a key word “cemetery scenes”, is very odd, that this comes after a cemetery spoiler pics coming out.
One thing tho, unless was a decoy, if they havent s«filmed a Robin and Roland scene, i would say that that he died in UW and this funeral is done after they return SB and this is to show what happens when u die at the UW, maybe means u cant be brought back.
Also, if this happens at the end of the episode, as a cliffhanger, they better be prepared to leave social networks from May to september, bc the fans will hate it and that will translate it into ship wars, especially if they bait fans only to be said that sean is not part of the cast and Robin is dead for real.
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March 8, 2016 at 7:01 pm #318495RainbowParticipantIf not OUAT then Beckett on Castle, but even then….this all is a bit too coincidental, like I said above.
Matt is the reviewer for Castle i believe, and also this is tag as Tv line team, so i think the idea is to keep surprise about who wrote it to make sure people dont find out which show it is. So Matt couldnt have said, yeah this is my article, since he was the one that was asked if Sean will leave the show, would be like saying is Robin.
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March 8, 2016 at 8:24 pm #318498onceaholicParticipantI agree that this is sounding more and more like Robin will bite the dust. Just when we need to find out more about him and why he believed himself to have had a dark past.
He has also been given less and less to do and say. Did he say anything in ep 12? I can’t remember. I also agree that it could be due to budget cuts.
We also need to find out more about what happened between him and Regina in the missing year. My head cannon says she was eventually horrible to him to protect him from WW so that she would never suspect that Regina cared about him. Maybe we will get this or a similar flashback if he dies in the present day, to show that she has always had ill-intent for Robin and now she is able to achieve what she originally set out to do? Something like this might make me feel a bit better.
I really hope that Regina doesn’t regress the slightest bit like she did when ‘Marian’ came back. I am tired of that I think it would be very unrealistic at this point, as she has come too far. Something does needs to be done about Zelena though, as she poses a danger to Roland, Henry and anyone else Regina holds dear. Instead of killing her (which would be hypocritical as others have already said), I am thinking some special prison for magical creatures might suffice. Henry could write it into existence.
Or is all of this wishful thinking again?
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March 8, 2016 at 8:29 pm #318499RainbowParticipantJust when we need to find out more about him and why he believed himself to have had a dark past.
He has also been given less and less to do and say. Did he say anything in ep 12? I can’t remember.
Just like happened 2 years ago, Neal was sudden cut from most episodes until he had one centric sort of. And also like the writers said back then that they would show more of Neal story in 3B and then they decide not to, so there are to many deja vu from 2 years ago.
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