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April 30, 2013 at 1:30 am #136699RumplesGirlKeymaster
http://tvline.com/2013/04/29/once-upon-a-time-season-2-spoilers-peter-pan-neal-wendy-emmy/
ABC’s Once Upon a Time has now revealed Tamara and Greg’s anti-magic agenda and fried the Charmings’ beans, putting the good guys’ future in jeopardy. Meanwhile, promos for Season 2′s penultimate episode, “Second Star to the Right,” offer a first glimpse at Wendy Darling and Peter Pan. With these elements now in play, series creators Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis held court with reporters to field burning Qs and tease what’s to come.
S A BIG GAP NEAL’S BACKSTORY ABOUT TO BE FILLED? | Yes, he’s Rumplestiltskin’s son. But ever since Emma’s ex mentioned having previously met Hook, we’ve known he has other stamps on his magical passport. Cue the promo for next Sunday, in which Wendy Darling tells young Bae about her shadowy friend Peter. “What happens with him, Wendy and the Darling family is the emotional touchstone of these last two hours,” said Kitsis. “Hopefully, it will inform who he is as a character and also [establish] another land, which is, hopefully, not what you think it is.” Meaning, prepare to eventually plot a course for what the show bosses dub “Neverland-adjacent.” (Awww-fully cute fact: Emma reminds Neal of Wendy, Kitsis shared.)
WILL PETER PAN BE AN ACTUAL CHARACTER? | And not just a CGI creation, as in the promo? After all, it was teased at Once‘s PaleyFest panel that although we’re visiting a new realm, a key player would not be cast until Season 3. Such speculation “would probably be a good guess,” Kitsis allowed. That said, Once‘s version “is probably not the lovely, cuddly shadow we remember,” he noted. “We’re doing [Peter Pan and Neverland] completely differently.”
FOR WHOM DO TAMARA AND GREG WORK? | In the next episode/one already circulating sneak peek, Tamara alludes to the “Home Office” — and in the May 12 finale, “You will find out who the Home Office is [and] what they want, but you won’t know why,” Kitsis shared. “Since we [as TV viewers] have all been trained with initiatives and secret organizations, we are hoping to lead you down a different path, one that goes, ‘Ah, OK, it’s not that.’
WHAT HAPPENED TO GREG’S DAD? | Onetime Storybrooke interloper Kurt Flynn’s fate will be revealed this Sunday, Horowitz promises. Important to remember: Despite whatever story Regina spins in the interim, “No one leaves Storybrooke,” Kitsis reminds.
HOW MANY MAGIC BEANS ARE LEFT? | As the Charmings realized this past Sunday, Regina razed their hidden bean field — but not before snatching a total of three beans for her own purposes.
WHO HOLDS STORYBROOKE’S FATE IN THEIR HANDS? | The gemstone “trigger” that Regina retrieved from Maleficent’s Storybrooke lair “is an erase button that returns Storybrooke to what it once was” — meaning nothing, with any inhabitants thusly snuffed, Kitsis reiterated. “Unfortunately for Regina, she’s now strapped to a table and the two people who have it” — Tamara and Greg — “seem to be hellbent on getting rid of this town.”
SPEAKING OF WHICH: IS SOMEONE GONNA DIE? | It sure sounds like it — and “perhaps” in this week’s episode, Kitsis teased.
WILL BELLE EVER TOLL AGAIN? | The producers promised more on the Rumple/Belle/Lacey before season’s end — including Lacey’s possibly surprising perspective on the prophecy about Henry, were she to get wind of it! — and also hinted it will take something brand-new, and not True Love’s Kiss, to bring Belle back. If, that is, Rumple still pines for the princess. “He seems to be enjoying Lacey because she lets him be who he really wants to be. And his son is who he wants to better for,” Kitsis noted. “So the question is, which one of those will win at the end? That would be the internal showdown for Mr. Gold.”
UM, HOW DO YOU ELECTROCUTE A WOODEN MAN…? | Amidst much talk of Tamara’s evil deeds, Kitsis and Horowitz offered a mea culpa about the Taser-like device she used to fell The Dragon and August/Pinocchio, saying that if they could change any one thing about Season 2, it’d be their choice of gizmo. “When we sat down to do this, we thought, ‘We need a real-world weapon,’” Kitsis explained. “And in the moment of making that decision, we never realized the backlash that would [come]…. We just figured the audience would assume, ‘Oh, it’s not a [regular] Taser.’ But they did not.” Added Horowitz, “The simplest way to think about it is [August] wasn’t electrocuted; the device did something else to him.” Kitsis hinted at further clarity on the weird “science” once the Home Office is revealed.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 30, 2013 at 1:33 am #189876RumplesGirlKeymasterWe’re doing [Peter Pan and Neverland] completely differently.
😯 😯 😯 😯 😯 😯
Important to remember: Despite whatever story Regina spins in the interim, “No one leaves Storybrooke,” Kitsis reminds.
Gotta be the basement
including Lacey’s possibly surprising perspective on the prophecy about Henry, were she to get wind of it! — and also hinted it will take something brand-new, and not True Love’s Kiss, to bring Belle back.
I’ll be over in this corner rocking back and forth until further notice
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 30, 2013 at 1:36 am #189877sarah_tnParticipantImportant to remember: Despite whatever story Regina spins in the interim, “No one leaves Storybrooke,” Kitsis reminds.
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Does he mean they never really leave Storybrooke to enter Neverland? 😯 ❓
April 30, 2013 at 1:42 am #189879KebParticipant“Who he really wants to be…” Maybe on some level. The cursed level. He likes having power because it keeps him from being scared, but I don’t think he likes being evil. I think the evil that took root in him likes it a LOT. It’s certainly easier for him. But that’s a troubling line.
Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing
April 30, 2013 at 1:51 am #189880KebParticipantSeems. I’m going to take some hope from that word “seems” there. He might be enjoying letting out his rage for Lacey but that’s not what he really wants. He really wants family. With Belle and Bae and Emma and Henry.
Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing
April 30, 2013 at 1:54 am #189882RumplesGirlKeymaster@Keb wrote:
Seems. I’m going to take some hope from that word “seems” there. He might be enjoying letting out his rage for Lacey but that’s not what he really wants. He really wants family. With Belle and Bae and Emma and Henry.
Would you like to join me over here in my corner with the rocking back and forth?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 30, 2013 at 1:55 am #189883KebParticipantYes please. We seem to be two Rumbellers of a kind. *Rumbelle hugs* Hope and faith. They said we could have hope and faith.
Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing
April 30, 2013 at 2:00 am #189884MysteryKat25ParticipantBefore all the SwanFire flailing begins (so it can be buried here early on and then they can have all the fun they want) I just want to point out the line about Emma reminding Neal of Wendy. Hook reminded Emma of Neal. If Neal can move on with the person who reminds him of someone he cared about in the past but is (presumably) a bit different, so can Emma. Just saying.
On the flip side, it is sweet and as I’ve said elsewhere on the boards I’m really hoping that by the end of the finale, with so much focus on young Bae (whom I love) and Neverland and Hook, + their relationship along the way, that with many gaps filled in I’ll at least be a little more torn (I’m a super indecisive person – torn is a good thing, especially with ships in triangles). Hearing that there’s potentially sweet scenes makes me a little leery as I still want my CaptainSwan ship to sail into the sunset, but I have a lot of hope for this finale on a lot of fronts, including SwanFire stuff.
That being said, as per the rest of it…RumBelle – it will take something new and different from TLK??? (I want RumBelle back! At least that’s a ship *most* of us can agree on, and something new from TLK has potential to be interesting, it just needs to hurry up! *passes out cookies*)
The taser thing I’ve addressed elsewhere.
Regina, Regina…when do your plans ever work out the way you want them to? You just gave the enemy of pretty much everybody the only way to destroy you all, including Henry. *smacks forehead*
Peter Pan is different and we’re going to Neverland-adjacent?? *Most* of their twists have been pretty cool (and frankly I enjoy some of their “improvements” more than the original that inspired it – I always hated the original movie of Snow White for instance, as well as Pinocchio but love them now), so hopefully it will be an amazing finale.
PLEASE don’t let me down on Neverland. I have high hopes for that and for Oz someday. Wonderland was already mildly disappointing but at least that will hopefully be improved for the spinoff since they’ll have more budget in place for the main location I would hope! Neverland needs to be awesome and since they’re devoting at least these day eps to that story, as well as potentially in the future, and it’s the finale which always means epicness…I may start holding my breath just a little bit. Plus with some of the eps we’ve had recently, including 2 with no FTL flashbacks, I’m hoping that a huge chunk of the budget was set aside to make it super awesome. It’s H&K’s favorite story so *fingers crossed* they’ll do an amazing job on it!
As for someone dying possibly this week…=/ We’re running out of characters that I hate who aren’t obviously going to be alive and kicking come the finale. That doesn’t bode well. 🙁
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
April 30, 2013 at 2:13 am #189887KebParticipantWell, they can kill Greg and Tamara a bit if they like. I’m just terrified they’ll kill a lynchpin like Neal and break every character’s heart.
Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing
April 30, 2013 at 2:15 am #189890RumplesGirlKeymasterI wanna know what “doing NL and Peter Pan completely different” means. I mean…what?
And yes *cookies for Rumbellers*
I too awwww-ed at the “Emma reminds Neal of Wendy” line.
Death? I still say Granny at the hands of Tamara because she over hears something.
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