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GASP what if Hook is the infamous Peter Pan!? It would basically be another Beast/Rumple, Red/Wolf scenario.
It could explain the quote about Hook, you know… “hero trapped in a villains body/villain trapped in a heroes body”. Basically in this incarnation of the tale Killian Jones is the man and he was Peter Pan in his youth but left Neverland grew up and then became Captain Hook and then returned back to Neverland to bide his time to plot his revenge on Rumple. Met Bae took him under his wing or watched over him and the rest of the lost boys. Plus the rivalry between Peter Pan and Hook can exist as an inner struggle inside of Killian Jones, fighting with his good and bad side.
As for Felix I think he’s kind of like the leader of the lost boys since Pan left but not Pan. Heidi I think is clearly Wendy.
[adrotate group="5"]@slurpeez108 wrote:
Oh well. Still, I’ll carry the hope of Nealfire Pan until disproven entirely. 🙂 I saw someone write on Tumblr:
Point of clarification: So what they actually say is that they haven’t seen anyone get the theories on Neal’s backstory right yet. NOT that no one has gotten a Peter Pan theory right.
So, we could have Neal being Peter Pan, but the details are what’s different….some twist on the original tale.
This has me keeping faint hope alive. We know how they love playing with words.
I definitely don’t think Neal is Pan for many reasons but mainly he doesn’t match any of the characters iconic traits. Plus this along with the fact that he was a lost boy when he was young(which I predicted) debunks the theory.
I never saw Neal as Peter Pan, and I kind of knew he wasn’t with the last episode. Now we will just have to see how it all plays out. If Killian Jones went to Neverland as a youth and became Peter Pan before leaving Neverland and growing up. Or if Pan is just a supporting player to Once’s Hook.
I just think that it would add more ummph if the character was someone we already knew because I do see Pan becoming a major character.
It’s also interesting though because the only character they have wanted since the very beginning of the show, was not Pan nor Tink it was Captain Hook. This was stated in the official Once Magazine by Adam.
This theory actually makes sense with why Hook was promoted to a regular even before his first episode aired, it’s because it was always intended that he would be a series player on the show. He also in The Crocodile IMO gave off a vibe that he has been to Neverland before, perhaps in his youth.
On top of all of that he shares many traits with Peter Pan that even the original Hook did not have. For one Hook was not a flirt while Pan was a major one(Wendy, the mermaids, Tiger Lily, Tink, Jane, etc) which this Hook already has down pat. His sense of honor and courage/bravery are identical as are his leadership skills. Plus physical features all the way to the boyish face and the elf ears. 🙂
How did Killian Jones become a pirate captain at such a young age? Peter Pan became the captain of the JR at a young age as well.
Not to mention we won’t see Pan this year and we’re getting Bae’s background and everything this season. Next season we're getting Hook's background which again contributes to the theory because IF Hook was Pan it was when he was a child, and then he grew up and left Neverland and a new leader for the lost boys was crowned aka Felix.
The lost boys may also be of the new generation because they could have gone home with Pan or grown up with him and became members of the JR crew.
I agree on Neal not possessing any of Pan’s major character traits, but I don’t think Hook will end up being Pan either. They’re hiding the identity of the hooded guy among the Lost Boys (presumably the one named Felix in the casting call) so much that I’ve come to think he IS Peter Pan. I don’t rule out, however, the possibility that Pan is Hook’s son, possibly with Milah; though Hook gave no sign of being looking for a lost son in “The Crocodile”, Milah was oddly two steps ahead of Rumple there, having captured Smee for his bean.
Regardless whether he’ll be revealed as Hook’s son or not, I do believe he could easily end up being revealed as also being Pinocchio’s Lampwick and Neverland being OUAT’s Pleasure Island; this’d definitely explain how August knew Neal was Bae, he met him as a puppet in Neverland.
I don’t think Hook is Pan either. Yes, they’ve made characters (like Rumple) have multiple roles (Rumple, the Beast, the Crocodile) but thus far they’ve all come from different stories. It might be too confusing for the audience to have Hook be both Captain Hook and Peter Pan.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@RumplesGirl wrote:
I don’t think Hook is Pan either. Yes, they’ve made characters (like Rumple) have multiple roles (Rumple, the Beast, the Crocodile) but thus far they’ve all come from different stories. It might be too confusing for the audience to have Hook be both Captain Hook and Peter Pan.
Well this show is from the makers of Lost, so I don’t think confusing the audience is something the writers particularly care for. 😆
i agree on Neal not possessing any of Pan’s major character traits, but I don’t think Hook will end up being Pan either. They’re hiding the identity of the hooded guy among the Lost Boys (presumably the one named Felix in the casting call) so much that I’ve come to think he IS Peter Pan. I don’t rule out, however, the possibility that Pan is Hook’s son, possibly with Milah; though Hook gave no sign of being looking for a lost son in “The Crocodile”, Milah was oddly two steps ahead of Rumple there, having captured Smee for his bean.
Regardless whether he’ll be revealed as Hook’s son or not, I do believe he could easily end up being revealed as also being Pinocchio’s Lampwick and Neverland being OUAT’s Pleasure Island; this’d definitely explain how August knew Neal was Bae, he met him as a puppet in Neverland.
As far as Pan being Hook’s son that’s a little too out there for my taste. There is absolutely no indication nor even a hint to this. It’s quite interesting though far-fetch’d. I don’t believe it will happen at all. Like you said Killian didn’t give an inkling to a lost son and I’m sure that if I suspect that he was abandoned as a child he would never do the same thing to his son. So I don’t see this happening.
I do however believe personally that Felix is not Pan. He’s the leader of the lost boys that took over when Pan left Neverland long ago. He’s kind of like the Ruffio character from the 1991 film Hook IMO. The new lost boys needed a new leader after Pan grew up and left Neverland and that is where this Felix character comes in.
Besides I thought it was already known that the character with the hood on was Young Bae and they didn't want it revealed that he was on set. That is whom the person whom visited the set was talking about whom was under a hoodie and they didn't want pictures leaked. HookedchoseEmma is the url tumblr. She revealed that she took pics with someone but could not reveal whom it was because of spoiler leaks but once she saw the pics of Young Bae across tumblr she confirmed that is whom was under the hood.
That’s a good point, but LOST and OUaT are two different shows. LOST’s mythology was complex but it was supposed to be. H and K said somewhere at the very beginning that they did learn a lot on LOST about how to create mythology but that OUaT was always supposed to be more about the characters. And they are dealing with well known fairy tales, they want their own spin but they try to bring in some of the elements people already know.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@RumplesGirl wrote:
I don’t think Hook is Pan either. Yes, they’ve made characters (like Rumple) have multiple roles (Rumple, the Beast, the Crocodile) but thus far they’ve all come from different stories. It might be too confusing for the audience to have Hook be both Captain Hook and Peter Pan.
Well, that’s not completely true. You’ve forgotten Red Riding Hood being the Wolf. 🙂
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As far as Pan being Hook’s son that’s a little too out there for my taste. There is absolutely no indication nor even a hint to this. It’s quite interesting though far-fetch’d. I don’t believe it will happen at all. Like you said Killian didn’t give an inkling to a lost son and I’m sure that if I suspect that he was abandoned as a child he would never do the same thing to his son. So I don’t see this happening.
Isn’t Hook/Peter usually portrayed with a dark father/son undertones? The mini-series “Neverland” even made that more explicit by having Hook be Peter’s surrogate father, the latter’s mother being his former love.
Oh, I have. Point to you Demileto nice catch!!
Ok, then I’ll consider the Hook = Pan theory. But the Pan/Hook animosity is such a huge part of the mythology of PP that to make them one and the same…I don’t know. You lose so much story potential. When I believed that Neal was also Nealfire Pan, it could go either way: Hook and Pan as enemies or Hook and Pan as father figure to a lost boy, which would have been a great way to explore Neal, Hook, and Rumple.
I do think Hook’s backstory is really important and will shed a lot of light onto this whole situation, but I think at most he’s a lost boy."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@Hookian wrote:
Besides I thought it was already known that the character with the hood on was Young Bae and they didn't want it revealed that he was on set. That is whom the person whom visited the set was talking about whom was under a hoodie and they didn't want pictures leaked. HookedchoseEmma is the url tumblr. She revealed that she took pics with someone but could not reveal whom it was because of spoiler leaks but once she saw the pics of Young Bae across tumblr she confirmed that is whom was under the hood.
This is news to me, I haven’t seen it be mentioned in the spoilers forums I go like this one and FanForum’s before.
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