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[hookian]

@Gypsy wrote:

Hookian wrote
GASP what if Hook is the infamous Peter Pan!?

The problem I have with this theory, since I read it a few months ago on another board is….
One of Peter Pan’s main characteristics is that he was a 14 yr old boy.
Hook was already an adult when he went to Neverland.

I’m well aware that K&H put their own twist on the stories, but, to change “who” Peter Pan was and what such an iconic character was written to represent would be a stretch, even for these guys.

Well it could be that Killian has gone to Neverland before the whole Milah ordeal which to me was the case in the crocodile. As a child he went to Neverland, became Peter Pan spent time there with his crew of lost boys, then they all left Neverland met Milah the whole ordeal with rumple happened and then he returned to Neverland this time as Captain Hook.

They said we would come to find out how Killian jones became a pirate captain at such a young age which I think goes hand in hand with the theory because pan became captain of the Jolly Roger at a young age.

[MysteryKat25]

@Gypsy wrote:

Hookian wrote
GASP what if Hook is the infamous Peter Pan!?

The problem I have with this theory, since I read it a few months ago on another board is….
One of Peter Pan’s main characteristics is that he was a 14 yr old boy.
Hook was already an adult when he went to Neverland.

I’m well aware that K&H put their own twist on the stories, but, to change “who” Peter Pan was and what such an iconic character was written to represent would be a stretch, even for these guys.

I’m still trying to wrap my head around the fact that it’s looking like NealFire won’t be Peter but I’m starting to agree that it’s likely Hook. One of the reasons is his comments about the Lost Boys seeming more sympathetic than we’re used to with Hook and the other being how quickly he knew to go to Neverland when he needed time to plot his revenge on the crocodile.

It’s totally possible that when Hook was younger he was in Neverland, was essentially Peter or a Lost Boy, eventually left (Peter travels out sometimes) and then grew up, only to discover he needed to go back to a place where time would stop in order to find a way to get his revenge. He knew immediately when he threw the bean that they needed to go to Neverland. How did he know about Neverland if he hadn’t been there before?

They have shown they’re not afraid to mix characters up (hello Red / Wolf) and the way he’s talked about the Lost Boys in Tallahassee makes me think that at least at one point they didn’t have such a bad relationship as one would expect.

One of the other things I’ve said from the beginning with Hook is that he comes across to me as the Dread Pirate Roberts version of Westley from The Princess Bride. What if Killian Jones is a name like that and he was once named Peter? Perhaps it’s a title that he has taken on? It would be interesting if “Killian Jones” was the enemy of Peter and the Lost Boys and that he took on that mantle once defeating him, taking over his ship etc, and then eventually choosing to leave, grow up, and become a pirate himself, keeping the name that was so fearsome to them all as children. Then he continues using that name until he becomes Hook.

It would certainly be an interesting twist and I am soooo ready for them to actually do something with him! I’m glad they’ve said they wanted him from the start because too many lump him in with the other new characters when he was supposed to be separate from them. I wonder how he would have fit into last season but I’m hopeful we get a lot more of him soon (and less of him on the stupid floor!).

I was on such a high after The Crocodile and Tallahassee because of all the potential threads they were tossing out and then he’s just been relegated to the background (partially due to injury I’m sure but he’s becoming a bit of a joke). I’m ready for the Captain to stop putting up with it, take charge, and hopefully change a few people’s minds in the process!

Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.

[gypsy]

I don’t think it’s a bad theory.
Actually, I think it would be an interesting spin if Hook turned out to be Peter Pan….especially with these writers.
I love their take on the stories 🙂

If Hook was was in Neverland before, how did he get there? Supposedly, beans weren’t in abundance.
If he didn’t need a bean to get to Neverland, why waste the one he had? That bean could have come in handy for Hook at some other point in time….like when he wanted to get to Storybrooke.
He was going to Neverland to stop aging so he could ‘live long enough’ to get revenge on Rumplestiltskin.

[CrownedWithLaurels]

@Hookian wrote:

@Demileto wrote:

@Hookian wrote:

Besides I thought it was already known that the character with the hood on was Young Bae and they didn't want it revealed that he was on set. That is whom the person whom visited the set was talking about whom was under a hoodie and they didn't want pictures leaked. HookedchoseEmma is the url tumblr. She revealed that she took pics with someone but could not reveal whom it was because of spoiler leaks but once she saw the pics of Young Bae across tumblr she confirmed that is whom was under the hood.

This is news to me, I haven’t seen it be mentioned in the spoilers forums I go like this one and FanForum’s before.

Oh really well isn’t it kind of obvious? I mean a pivotal part of the finale is the relationship between Bae and Hook so it would make sense they would not want any of that stuff revealed. I thought it was already known that it was young Bae under the hoodie.

The filming shots from the same scene show young Bae and the hooded fellow. The hooded fellow had really neat make-up on. I’ll try to find the link that said the make-up comment. So, I don’t think it is him.

Keeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.

[MatthewPaul]

@Demileto wrote:

@ItachiIshtar wrote:

I’m glad we were at least able to get an answer that Tamara wasn’t anybody else. Neal likely not being Peter is actually interesting, if this is the case. Makes Peter Pan’s identity more mysterious. Knowing the writers, though, I wouldn’t be surprised if all of the Peter Pan “hints’ with Neal were really red herrings all along.

How many of these hints were hints specifically to the Peter Pan character and not Neverland in general, though? I’ve never given much thought to it because I hated the idea that Bae took a detour from his intended destination of The Land Without Magic, I only ever remember the “Neal Cassady being called the Peter Pan of his time” one. 😕

I’m not a fan of the Nealfire Pan theory either. It’s true that those other “hints’ could have just pointed to the fact that he did go to Neverland at one point.

For the record, Daniel STILL has to drink coffee even if Neal was in Neverland. It’s just that if he wasn’t Peter Pan, he would get to drink coffee with a sweetener. Otherwise, he would have to drink black coffee.

[hookian]

This whole Peter Pan ordeal also goes well with Emma’s life. The one place that she wanted to go to was Neverland in Tallahassee. I have always associated Emma as an archetype of Wendy and many other fabled fairy tale characters. It’s all really interesting IMO.

[CrownedWithLaurels]

Here it is.
http://notgoodwolf.tumblr.com/page/10

Anonymous
Ok, you don’t have to say who was under the cloak but can you tell us if it’s a character that we’ve seen before or is it someone entirely new?

It’s someone new – and they had some neat makeup on.
— Shared 13 hours ago on March 27

That combined with the fact that young Bae is in the pictures with the cloaked figure, I think it’s safe to say Bae is not the mysterious one under the hood.

Keeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.

[gypsy]

Demileto wrote
How many of these hints were hints specifically to the Peter Pan character and not Neverland in general, though?

Just the fact that his alias is “Neal Cassady” is a direct ‘hint’ to Peter Pan.
And the fact that they stressed Bae’s age as 14.

[CrownedWithLaurels]

I keep thinking about this and talking it over with the hubs. None of us know Peter Pan’s back story. This whole entire series, if Bae is Pan, would be Peter Pan’s entire back story AND future story. PP is K&H’s favorite. If Bae is P.P., the entire series, every nook and cranny would be Peter Pan’s story., if you really think about it.
How epic would it be if this entire time we’ve simply been watching how Peter Pan got to Neverland and why?
I’m surprised that in the moment where speculation for him not being P.P. is the highest, I am having all these thoughts haha.

Also, there are only clues from the actual show and watching it unfold to point to him being P.P. That is where this theory comes from.
The only clues hinting to him not being P.P. are all speculation and interpretation of generalized spoilers. Which we can’t overlook, but at the same time, the track record for some of these bloggers/sites and their summarized form of posting interviews isn’t perfect.

I’m not 100% sure that he is; who could be with this show?
But all of this stuff is making me think through everything all over again with a fresh mind.

So many thoughts!!

Keeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.

[Demileto]

@Gypsy wrote:

Demileto wrote
How many of these hints were hints specifically to the Peter Pan character and not Neverland in general, though?

Just the fact that his alias is “Neal Cassady” is a direct ‘hint’ to Peter Pan.
And the fact that they sressed Bea’s age as 14.

I guess it’s all in the eyes of the beholder, these doesn’t seem enough to me to offset the fact that Bae’s characterization resembles little to nothing of what one would expected from Peter Pan; he’s not boastful, careless or cocky and he doesn’t strike me as someone who would have leadership skills.

Truth be told, considering the few disturbing bits I’ve learned today about the Peter Pan character that every adaptation seem all too happy to sweep under the carpet like his thinning out the Lost Boys ranks when they grow up and attacking both sides of a battle to make things interesting, both of which I’ve been clued suggest he kills his friends, I’ll actually be relieved if Bae doesn’t turn out to be him. Now I can understand why A & E are giving Hook a more sympathic portrayal than the usual epythome of evil one, it almost feels like Pan is no better than him. 😮

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