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[gypsy]

Also, there are only clues from the actual show and watching it unfold to point to him being P.P. that is where this theory comes from.

Read this. There are many more clues than just the ones alluded to on the show 🙂
https://oncepodcast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1462&hilit=i+believe+bae+is#p18390
Plus, the real Neal Cassady was known as the ‘Peter Pan’ of his generation.
The real Neal Cassady has connections to the Grateful Dead, who have connections to LOST’s Geronimo Jackson, who have connections to Neal, Emma and Henry.
Neal lives in NY…….that is where the Peter Pan Bus co. was established in the 1930’s and still exists today.
I believe there’s a connection between Neal and Jefferson because of the cleaners and hatters sign in his apartment.
We know Neal has a connection to August (Pinocchio) and I believe August and Jefferson have a connection because of the deleted scenes with August at Jefferson's house.
In Disney’s version of Pinochio when Jiminy opens the book to begin the story, two other books are visible…..Alice in Wonderland and Pinocchio…….Auguts (Pinocchio) Mad Hatter (Jefferson) and Peter Pan (Neal/Bae).

[CrownedWithLaurels]

Yes! I have. Over and over and over haha! I believe that was the first post ever that I read here on the forums when watching “The Return” for the very first time in November. I googled “is Baelfire Peter Pan” and that’s what I got! 😆 😀
My wording was confusing…
I just meant the theory is so much more than speculation, it is taken from things in the actual show, like, name meanings, timeline, etc etc etc. Meaning, the theory comes from all Adam and Eddy have put into the show and things we already have known and seen and heard, not just from speculation of peoples’ desires. Baelfire=Neal=P.P. theory wasn’t born out of “My favorite character is Neal so I want him to be P.P.” like many other theories are now, or different blog’s speculations; It was born out of so many facts and intelligent minds such as GoldenKey putting together all the pieces! 🙂

Keeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.

[RumplesGirl]

^Yes. The theory that Neal is also PP wasn’t just a random thought someone had. Gypsy and TheGoldenKey put a lot of it together, very similiar to how they figured out who Whale was.
Many people could say they were red herrings but there WERE SO MANY that I’m not quite willing to give up the ghost of Nealfire Pan.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[MatthewPaul]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

^Yes. The theory that Neal is also PP wasn’t just a random thought someone had. Gypsy and TheGoldenKey put a lot of it together, very similiar to how they figured out who Whale was.
Many people could say they were red herrings but there WERE SO MANY that I’m not quite willing to give up the ghost of Nealfire Pan.

Watch ABC give out too many clues concerning Peter Pan’s identity in a continuation of The Untold Stories Facebook game this summer/fall. That’s basically what gave away that Whale was Victor Frankenstein. 😆

[hookian]

@Gypsy wrote:

Also, there are only clues from the actual show and watching it unfold to point to him being P.P. that is where this theory comes from.

Read this. There are many more clues than just the ones alluded to on the show 🙂
https://oncepodcast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1462&hilit=i+believe+bae+is#p18390
Plus, the real Neal Cassady was known as the ‘Peter Pan’ of his generation.
The real Neal Cassady has connections to the Grateful Dead, who have connections to LOST’s Geronimo Jackson, who have connections to Neal, Emma and Henry.
Neal lives in NY…….that is where the Peter Pan Bus co. was established in the 1930’s and still exists today.
I believe there’s a connection between Neal and Jefferson because of the cleaners and hatters sign in his apartment.
We know Neal has a connection to August (Pinocchio) and I believe August and Jefferson have a connection because of the deleted scenes with August at Jefferson's house.
In Disney’s version of Pinochio when Jiminy opens the book to begin the story, two other books are visible…..Alice in Wonderland and Pinocchio…….Auguts (Pinocchio) Mad Hatter (Jefferson) and Peter Pan (Neal/Bae).

I’m sorry but aside from what the writers saying Neal’s not pan I can’t see Neal being pan. He has no c haracteristics to pan. Neithe ether positive nor negative attributes I have never believed him to be pan. I definitely have beloved he was a lost boy and I also called whale being Frankenstein wasn’t it obvious,lol?

I mean I can create a major list of anvil sized hints that support hook as pan you would just have to give me a bit of time to construct it all. 🙂

[hookian]

@Gypsy wrote:

I don’t think it’s a bad theory.
Actually, I think it would be an interesting spin if Hook turned out to be Peter Pan….especially with these writers.
I love their take on the stories 🙂

If Hook was was in Neverland before, how did he get there? Supposedly, beans weren’t in abundance.
If he didn’t need a bean to get to Neverland, why waste the one he had? That bean could have come in handy for Hook at some other point in time….like when he wanted to get to Storybrooke.
He was going to Neverland to stop aging so he could ‘live long enough’ to get revenge on Rumplestiltskin.

In sure this will all be revealed when we get hooks background which is more than likely in s3 when we will get the pan reveal. Perhaps they may go the same route they showed Greg’s background with hook. It’s really an intriguing thought and now with bae most likely not being pan I see Killian being a very easy candidate for Peter Pan. It would be quote the intriguing twist.

Only time will tell.

[hookian]

Oh BTW this person created a brilliant masterpost on Killian=Pan. If anyone is interested. 🙂

https://www.tumblr.com/onceuponamirror/47424823578/peter-pan-killian-jones-the-masterpost

[gypsy]

Hookian wrote
I also called whale being Frankenstein wasn’t it obvious,lol?

Obvious? To me and TheGoldenKey it was obvious long before eps 5 aired.

We posted our theory on a few different boards.
You wouldn’t believe how nastily other people disagreed with us….made fun of us.
No one believed us……only a handful of people (literally like 5 or 6 others) shared our thoughts/ideas/enthusiasm/anticipation and/or had similar theories.

It was only obvious to other people when the promo gave it away the week before episode 5 aired.

Then everyone and their brother realized he was Victor Frankenstein.

[hookian]

@Gypsy wrote:

Hookian wrote
I also called whale being Frankenstein wasn’t it obvious,lol?

Obvious? To me and TheGoldenKey it was obvious long before eps 5 aired.

We posted our theory on a few different boards.
You wouldn’t believe how nastily other people disagreed with us….made fun of us.
No one believed us……only a handful of people (literally like 5 or 6 others) shared our thoughts/ideas/enthusiasm/anticipation and/or had similar theories.

It was only obvious to other people when the promo gave it away the week before episode 5 aired.

Then everyone and their brother realized he was Victor Frankenstein.

Wow really, well I’m sorry. I thought it was clear from a while back, way before the promo for episode 5. 😆

[MatthewPaul]

@Hookian wrote:

@Gypsy wrote:

Hookian wrote
I also called whale being Frankenstein wasn’t it obvious,lol?

Obvious? To me and TheGoldenKey it was obvious long before eps 5 aired.

We posted our theory on a few different boards.
You wouldn’t believe how nastily other people disagreed with us….made fun of us.
No one believed us……only a handful of people (literally like 5 or 6 others) shared our thoughts/ideas/enthusiasm/anticipation and/or had similar theories.

It was only obvious to other people when the promo gave it away the week before episode 5 aired.

Then everyone and their brother realized he was Victor Frankenstein.

Wow really, well I’m sorry. I thought it was clear from a while back, way before the promo for episode 5. 😆

Like I said, it the the Untold Stories Facebook game that gave it away for me. 😆

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