TVLine Spoiler Alert: Meet the Wicked Witch!

[WickedRegal]

WICKEDSISTERS IS ON!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kfchimera]

I would welcome that idea Happy Endings!  Mal’s story was full of potential but they killed her off, but bringing a sister to get revenger for the curse and that is a logical result of what went before.  It would let then get back to Auror’s truncated tale, maybe get flashbacks with Mal’s frenemy story with Regina.  So much richness of previously dropped breadcrumbs that it feels like a story they planned rather than some weird out of left field plot veer of a sister that was never mentioned or hinted at.

Sweetgrass–Cora explicitly said any child she had would not be Rumples.  This was not about Xavier expecting Cora to be untouched but Cora was not going to fulfill her bargain with Rumple because  he could only claim a child he fathered by her under the changed deal.   If he were the father, she would have to give him the baby and we know that didn’t happen.

That’s not to say Mal, & WW could not have been cousins to Regina, give them excuse to bring Rose back as young Cora with three girls playing together in the background or something while she and Rumple spar about something, maybe the Globe she gives him later, that he eventually uses to find Bae.  Maybe Cora did something and put the blame on Aurora’s mother, and that’s why Mal cursed her in the first place, then went after Aurora?

Anyway, If they do this thing of Mal & Wicked being sister, it would restore some faith for me in the storytelling if they pick up all these dropped things going all the way back to Season 1 with Mal and Regina, who made the curse, S2 about Aurora’s story, the wraith and all this.

 

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[WickedRegal]

And I personally believe that Regina needs someone she can go to…that’s if her and the WWW ever made amends. And I shall explain this process one last time on how the WWW is Regina’s younger sister.

 +  =   WS 

I don’t know whether or not the WWW is Elphaba or not, but in Wicked, the witch’s mother Melena had an affair with the Wizard of Oz, while her husband Frex was away. No telling how long the affair lasted…but she eventually got pregnant with Elphaba who came out green due to an elixir the Wizard gave Melena.

Now…come on! You mean to tell me only I and Koffegirl can see seductive Cora cheating on Henry Sr. with a suave handsome “all powerful” Wizard? We all know how much Cora loves power, and how much she didn’t love nor care for Henry Sr. So that’s easy to imagine.

Cora already had Regina, so I doubt she’d ever want anymore kids…so when she gave birth to the WWW, who was either born green or cursed green by Rumple for Cora cheating him out of Regina, Cora didn’t want the WWW so she either kept her in a tower away from Regina who rarely ever saw her sister anymore or just abandoned WWW altogether.

Now more than likely I can see Cora just abandoning WWW, but I personally would like to see a child WWW attempting to play with child Regina, but Cora scolding Regina as she had lessons to do, thus leaving WWW all alone. And perhaps it was Rumpelstilskin who helped WWW escape Cora by instructing Jefferson to drop her off in Oz because he wanted Regina to have no distractions from her future lessons. I think that’d be a great route…but like I said the chances of Cora just abandoning the WWW is greater!

So whenever the WWW got to Oz…I think it will follow either the Wicked Route where WWW becomes wicked because of how her life just got worse over the years….or the Oz G & P Route where WWW falls in love with some handsome stranger who breaks her heart. We’ve had a lot of Wickedness beginnings…but becoming wicked because of heart break or becoming wicked because someone high in power declared you as such has never happened so both have equal chances of happening. Influence from the WWE to become wicked from either two reasons, I can see happening.

Now I think Dorothy came during the course of the Dark Curse, as the reason why the WWW wanted the ruby slippers is because she wanted to get back to Regina who was in SB, and even the score somehow. Which is why she makes her way back to the EF and awaits for her sister’s return…big sister blowout for sure coming up. And then it is either the WWW who recasts the Dark Curse sending them all back to SB or it’s Regina who recasts the Dark Curse to escape her sister’s wrath. This is when Emma comes into play…who I still think on a stretch wise was Dorothy’s parallel who confronted the WWW once before. Now Emma being Dorothy is a stretch, I will admit to that.

But overall…I can definitely see #WickedSisters happening!

Now…I know this is very long stretch…but I think this scene from Frozen could represent how separated Regina and WWW could have been as a child. A young green WWW begging her elder sister Regina to come and play, but Cora reprimanding Regina and telling her to focus only on her studies, queenly lessons, and to just ignore WWW who Cora saw as a distraction to Regina’s success. This is only if Cora didn’t abandon the WWW, but instead kept her inside the castle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdEl-rsvaaA

 

 

"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

[storyteller]

I still doubt we’re dealing with the Witch being Regina’s sister but if that’s the working assumption then I can foresee only two possibilities:

1) Twins, Cora gives birth to two girls. Since the Witch’s costuming requires the green face paint, she need not necessarily have the Latina features of royal side of the family.  Blue eyes are a possibility, given that we don’t know what color Regina’s paternal and maternal grandmother’s eyes were. If the Witch has reddish hair that could be an inherited trait as well (given we don’t know the hair color of the Queen or the Miller’s wife.) based on Cora brunette locks.  Now, Cora loves Regina intensely so much so she pulls on her absent heart. Given that emotional response it makes me question what would make Cora give up a child of her own? Perhaps the child was the price of power in Cora’s Game of Thrones, at any rate twin sister plausible.

2) Child by a different father, a possibility given some of the physical incongruities between Cora, Henry Snr., Regina and the Witch.  This begs several questions however, who the father is, why Cora’s focus is so squarely on Regina (esp. given the episodes featuring Cora and her daughter)? Now, memory potions and spells have been used as a consistent plot device so that may alleviate some of these loose ends.

 

Custodian of Graham's darts, Rumple's spindle and Robin's quiver

[RumplesGirl]

I like the idea HE proposed.

WickedSisters is fine is that’s the route their going but…I’d prefer a non relation to be the big bad.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[betsypaige24]

I don’t care if she’s Regina’s sister, but seriously, if she’s Rumple’s daughter, if they decide to show us he and Cora actually having this kind of relationship (I’ve seen people speculating that) again after all that went down, then that will be just…..the end.. TMD was bad enough – and yet I can see Adam and Eddy going that route just because. I would much rather have Cora having affairs, which honestly if she’s trying to acquire power, seems more in character for her. She already was heartless with her heart…..without her heart…….It’s already bad enough with Rumbelle separated again for the thousandth time; please no more R/C.

As to Dorothy,  I’m not going to get my hopes up because I don’t think there’s any way that Adam/Eddy would give Emilie/Belle a big storyline, but it does makes sense for Belle to be Dorothy …..especially if Rumple is the new Wizard of Oz (I assume there have been different ones). Speculation on other boards runs to:

1) Belle has  been seen carrying baskets three times now. In Skin Deep, The Cricket Game, and Going Home.

2)  And the thing about dogs in The Cricket Game.

3) Belle does resemble Dorothy

 

He really is the perfect WOZ/Professor Marvel…….the notion of him liking favors would definitely come into play, lol. Can you imagine Pongo  ripping the curtain off only for Dorothy Belle to see Gold behind it, lol?

What I love about the Wizard is that he, in a sense, gave the gang symbols of what they had already shown: Tin Man proved he had a heart without one beating inside of him; the Scarecrow proved he had brains without an actual brain and the Cowardly Lion proved he had courage without it being acknowledged. The Wizard gave  them a heart, a degree and a medal, but even without those things, our friends had proven themselves. That just sounds like Gold so much, the puppet master…..in a good way.

Adam and Eddy said Rumbelle’s relationship would be explored no matter what state it’s in….lol, well I’ll believe that when I see it, but possibly they are referring to this.  It would also match Adam’s comment about them being in the same world for an extended period

 

[sweetgrass]

Sweetgrass–Cora explicitly said any child she had would not be Rumples. This was not about Xavier expecting Cora to be untouched but Cora was not going to fulfill her bargain with Rumple because he could only claim a child he fathered by her under the changed deal. If he were the father, she would have to give him the baby and we know that didn’t happen. That’s not to say Mal, & WW could not have been cousins to Regina, give them excuse to bring Rose back as young Cora with three girls playing together in the background or something while she and Rumple spar about something, maybe the Globe she gives him later, that he eventually uses to find Bae. Maybe Cora did something and put the blame on Aurora’s mother, and that’s why Mal cursed her in the first place, then went after Aurora? Anyway, If they do this thing of Mal & Wicked being sister, it would restore some faith for me in the storytelling if they pick up all these dropped things going all the way back to Season 1 with Mal and Regina, who made the curse, S2 about Aurora’s story, the wraith and all this.

KFC I realize Rumple and Cora had a deal.  In my post, I speculated that is why Cora sent WWW to Oz so that Rumple could not collect on the deal.  Cora doesn’t seem the type to abandon her child.  Henry Sr. was completely cowed by her and if she became pregnant I don’t see why she would not have passed off the child as theirs.

Honestly, I think Rumple being related to Oz characters makes way more sense than being related to Pan.  I can see Malcolm becoming the wizard, but not becoming Peter Pan.    Malcolm and the Wizard of Oz are basically con men and the transformation fir one to the other makes sense.  Malcolm and Pan have nothing common at their core.  Malcolm was a very desperate man and not particularly clever.  Pan is smart in control and clever.  It was too big a leap for me to stomach.  Sadly, the ship has sailed on that matter.

I think Rumple having a long lost daughter is far more interesting and gives more interest to his relationship with both Regina and Bae.  for Regina it sheds new light on Cora and Rumple’s relationship.  It also explains rumple’s interest on her.  With Bae, it has him face a new sibling and relate to his father as someone who just found out he had a child.  At this point, I don’t care who is related to whom because the family tree is already and mess and the Pan reveal botched the tree for me.  basically in for a penny in for pound reasoning at this point.

Despite everything I’ve written, I am not wedded to the idea that WW is Rumple’s daughter.   It would have been a way better route to take than the Pan father.  Like I said earlier I can get behind a Malificent sister storyline.

Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.

[RumplesGirl]

He really is the perfect WOZ/Professor Marvel…….the notion of him liking favors would definitely come into play, lol. Can you imagine Pongo ripping the curtain off only for Dorothy Belle to see Gold behind it, lol? What I love about the Wizard is that he, in a sense, gave the gang symbols of what they had already shown: Tin Man proved he had a heart without one beating inside of him; the Scarecrow proved he had brains without an actual brain and the Cowardly Lion proved he had courage without it being acknowledged. The Wizard gave them a heart, a degree and a medal, but even without those things, our friends had proven themselves. That just sounds like Gold so much, the puppet master…..in a good way. Adam and Eddy said Rumbelle’s relationship would be explored no matter what state it’s in….lol, well I’ll believe that when I see it, but possibly they are referring to this. It would also match Adam’s comment about them being in the same world for an extended period

I’ve seen this theory and others like it around Tumblr. I find it very intriguing. We don’t know where Rumple ended up so it could very well be Oz.

Except for a few people here and there, I’m mostly seeing that everyone wants her to be unrelated to a major character (I support this)

I do like Mal’s sister idea and SG and HE put forth.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[WickedRegal]

And again…I just had to!

"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

[betsypaige24]

betsypaige24 wrote: He really is the perfect WOZ/Professor Marvel…….the notion of him liking favors would definitely come into play, lol. Can you imagine Pongo ripping the curtain off only for Dorothy Belle to see Gold behind it, lol? What I love about the Wizard is that he, in a sense, gave the gang symbols of what they had already shown: Tin Man proved he had a heart without one beating inside of him; the Scarecrow proved he had brains without an actual brain and the Cowardly Lion proved he had courage without it being acknowledged. The Wizard gave them a heart, a degree and a medal, but even without those things, our friends had proven themselves. That just sounds like Gold so much, the puppet master…..in a good way. Adam and Eddy said Rumbelle’s relationship would be explored no matter what state it’s in….lol, well I’ll believe that when I see it, but possibly they are referring to this. It would also match Adam’s comment about them being in the same world for an extended period

I’ve seen this theory and others like it around Tumblr. I find it very intriguing. We don’t know where Rumple ended up so it could very well be Oz. Except for a few people here and there, I’m mostly seeing that everyone wants her to be unrelated to a major character (I support this) I do like Mal’s sister idea and SG and HE put forth.

I’ll go back and read those theories…Maleficent is actually one of my favorite, all-time Disney characters (when I went to WDW a few years ago, I created a shirt with her on the front, lol), but I’m not a fan of ONCE’s version at all, so unless she’s been radically altered, I admit that I don’t have a need to see her again.

I keep thinking “Follow the Yellow Brick Road”………which is made of GOLD Bricks, lol. No, I’m sure it means absolutely nothing, but I just thought I’d throw that out there because, lol.

I’m not married to Gold being WOZ or Dorothy, but I really need to see a good, hopeful Rumbelle storyline after all that they’ve been through. Whatever their story, I just hope we don’t have to wait until the end of the half to see them reunited because while their reunions have gorgeous moments, they are always squeezed into episodes and aborted in some way.

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