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October 6, 2013 at 8:58 am #214201
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KeymasterTVLine visited the series’ set in Vancouver this past week, where Jennifer Morrison, Ginnifer Goodwin, Josh Dallas, Lana Parrilla, Colin O’Donoghue, Jared Gilmore and Emile de Ravin discussed the big themes of tonight’s episode — in which Pan forces Emma to face a hard truth, while in flashback the Evil Queen hands the Charmings an ultimatum.
Lots of pics, too!
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 6, 2013 at 9:00 am #214202RumplesGirl
KeymasterThe Lost Boys and Peter Pan want Henry to save magic… because magic is dying [in Neverland].” And that is a bad thing because…? “If magic is fading, maybe they’re getting older,” Gilmore guesses. “Then they can’t stay young forever in Neverland.”
There may be a victory dance going on if this is actually true
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 6, 2013 at 9:15 am #214203Phee
ParticipantHave read that blurb about 10 times and can’t decide if the bit about magic fading is something Jared actually knows, and the aging bit is just a guess…or if the whole thing is a guess.
October 6, 2013 at 9:17 am #214205RumplesGirl
KeymasterHave read that blurb about 10 times and can’t decide if the bit about magic fading is something Jared actually knows, and the aging bit is just a guess…or if the whole thing is a guess.
Same. I kinda hope it’s true since that’s been my theory all along–or at least I keep coming back to it at various points over the summer. But the “Gilmore guesses” is throwing me off.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 6, 2013 at 9:21 am #214207obisgirl
ParticipantThe Lost Boys and Peter Pan want Henry to save magic… because magic is dying [in Neverland].” And that is a bad thing because…? “If magic is fading, maybe they’re getting older,” Gilmore guesses. “Then they can’t stay young forever in Neverland.”
There may be a victory dance going on if this is actually true
I saw this too. Interesting. Belief goes away, they start aging.
October 6, 2013 at 9:23 am #214208RumplesGirl
KeymasterIf what Jared says is true, then it might also give some credence to another idea floating around: that Henry must give up his heart willingly. PP is going to appeal to Henry’s notion of what it means to be a hero and use it against him. We already know the risks Henry is willing to take, how deep his belief runs–he ate a poisoned turnover! So PP could play it as, “Yes, you loose your heart, but think of everyone you’re saving.”
*puts on Trekkie hat* “The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few–or the one” sort of mentality.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 6, 2013 at 9:27 am #214211obisgirl
ParticipantBut if belief is dying in Neverland, why need the heart? Wouldn’t belief be enough?
Love the Star Trek reference.
October 6, 2013 at 9:31 am #214213RumplesGirl
KeymasterBut if belief is dying in Neverland, why need the heart? Wouldn’t belief be enough? Love the Star Trek reference.
*nerdy high five*
Can we think of the heart like a power source? I know the idea of some sort of ritualistic sacrifice is disturbing and maybe it won’t even go that far but what happens when Henry leaves NL? Wouldn’t belief go with him. If the heart is a power source–and I think medically speaking, we can call it such because once your heart stops, YOU stop–then it must be kept in NL. PP doesn’t need the belief, he needs a physical heart of the one who has the extraordinary power of belief.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 6, 2013 at 9:44 am #214214kfchimera
ParticipantThe only thing that goes against that PP does not intend to kill Henry is the line Felix had saying “oh you are not the boy? Then you get to live”. Felix may not have known though what PP wants or why. Given how PP treated GOAT I think his motto may be “need to know basis and you do not need to know” and easier to get Felix loyal if he does not say we need this kid to really believe to keep the staus quo.
I know A&E talked about Pan as being like Kurtz from Heart of Darkness, the Joseph Conrad novel. Pan enjoys being a demi-god to the others but they may be seething with rage and resentment against him, so if they knew he had a weakness, they might rebel. In the original PP novel/Play the other boys want to go with Wendy and he alone stays.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
October 6, 2013 at 9:47 am #214215obisgirl
Participantobisgirl wrote: But if belief is dying in Neverland, why need the heart? Wouldn’t belief be enough? Love the Star Trek reference.
*nerdy high five* Can we think of the heart like a power source? I know the idea of some sort of ritualistic sacrifice is disturbing and maybe it won’t even go that far but what happens when Henry leaves NL? Wouldn’t belief go with him. If the heart is a power source–and I think medically speaking, we can call it such because once your heart stops, YOU stop–then it must be kept in NL. PP doesn’t need the belief, he needs a physical heart of the one who has the extraordinary power of belief.
Hmm, I see.
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