Understanding August

[warhorse78]

You don’t see him working for the blue fairy???????? It’s very obvious in Return when he has that conversation with Mother Superior, who I believe is very aware of what is going on. and I believe she sent August to get Mr Gold’s dagger.

[Phee]

@Schmacky wrote:

In Tallahassee:

Neal: And if I can’t be there for her, man, you got to promise me that you will be.

August: I promise.

11 years later:

August: I was supposed to be there for you. And I wasn’t.

When August has that conversation with Emma, I do believe he ultimately is remorseful for his previous actions up to and including taking that money and not being there for Emma as he promised. But, to get to that point, he had to have made mistakes. You can’t just discount them because there’s always a “what if” out there. There is more ‘evidence’ of him messing up than him working for some third party. It’s a cop-out for his character and you miss a lot of his growth if you don’t acknowledge his mess ups in the past. IMO.

Agreed, the guy makes mistakes, that’s who he is…

August: I’m not perfect. This world? Full of temptations. Turns out I’m not that great at saying no. I’m not built that way.

I do think that his actions that broke up Neal and Emma were orders from Blue, so she’s guided some of his actions, but by and large, the bad stuff he’s done, comes down to him making wrong choices. And I certainly agree that he shows remorse now. We’ve all been there, making wrong choices in life, sometimes making the same wrong choices over and over, no matter how wrong we know it is, and then hating ourselves for it after the fact, because we know we should have known better. That’s the basic human shortcoming that makes that puppet boy so real, and it’s why I really feel for him and want him to make good for his past mistakes.

[elle]

I don’t think August was taking order from the Blue Fairy during the time in Tallahassee, though it does seem familiar. She told Dreamy why he could be with Nova, just as how Pinocchio told Neal he couldn’t be with Emma. Both men loved these two women, and both of them were told to give them up for their own good. And both Nova and Emma never got a say in the matter–the descision was made for them. After the incident, Dreamy became Grumpy and Emma hardened.

Back with Pinocchio and the money, he did take it–the expression, the one of voice, the way he looks at the money, his speech about how he cannot say no to temptation, and his scene with Emma in the forest in The Stranger. He has said so before that he was not built that way, not built to say no to temptation. The original tale is similar–Pinocchio lied and gave into temptation. He could not help it.

[Ziera]

@Elle wrote:

I don’t think August was taking order from the Blue Fairy during the time in Tallahassee, though it does seem familiar. She told Dreamy why he could be with Nova, just as how Pinocchio told Neal he couldn’t be with Emma. Both men loved these two women, and both of them were told to give them up for their own good. And both Nova and Emma never got a say in the matter–the descision was made for them. After the incident, Dreamy became Grumpy and Emma hardened.

Back with Pinocchio and the money, he did take it–the expression, the one of voice, the way he looks at the money, his speech about how he cannot say no to temptation, and his scene with Emma in the forest in The Stranger. He has said so before that he was not built that way, not built to say no to temptation. The original tale is similar–Pinocchio lied and gave into temptation. He could not help it.

Hey! I didn’t notice that similarity before. You’re right… about the Blue Fairy and August.

Pinocchio definitely took the money…definitely.

*SWANFIRE* keeper of Neal's dream catcher

[craxyfox]

@Elle wrote:

I don’t think August was taking order from the Blue Fairy during the time in Tallahassee, though it does seem familiar. She told Dreamy why he could be with Nova, just as how Pinocchio told Neal he couldn’t be with Emma. Both men loved these two women, and both of them were told to give them up for their own good. And both Nova and Emma never got a say in the matter–the descision was made for them. After the incident, Dreamy became Grumpy and Emma hardened.

Back with Pinocchio and the money, he did take it–the expression, the one of voice, the way he looks at the money, his speech about how he cannot say no to temptation, and his scene with Emma in the forest in The Stranger. He has said so before that he was not built that way, not built to say no to temptation. The original tale is similar–Pinocchio lied and gave into temptation. He could not help it.

Thanks for pointing that out! Although August might not have been working for the Blue Fairy at that time, I really like the theory that she is the true puppet master controlling everything 😆
And just because August took the money and did a bad thing, does not mean he’s a bad guy 😛

[evilqueen]

@craxyfox wrote:

And just because August took the money and did a bad thing, does not mean he’s a bad guy 😛

No, of course not…
It’s just the same as saying “we’re not lost, we just don’t know where we are” 🙄

[craxyfox]

lol I just like that quote used by Dr Bailey from Grey’s Anatomy, because all the doctors do their best to save people’s lives, and although they may do ‘bad’ things personally, they are still good people. (my bad for going off-show-topic)
I believe August had good intentions, he just didn’t have a strong will to fight bad temptations, which is in his nature as the character Pinocchio. It’s not like he has killed anyone like Rumple and Regina, so he isn’t necessary a bad guy.

[Ziera]

@craxyfox wrote:

lol I just like that quote used by Dr Bailey from Grey’s Anatomy, because all the doctors do their best to save people’s lives, and although they may do ‘bad’ things personally, they are still good people. (my bad for going off-show-topic)
I believe August had good intentions, he just didn’t have a strong will to fight bad temptations, which is in his nature as the character Pinocchio. It’s not like he has killed anyone like Rumple and Regina, so he isn’t necessary a bad guy.

It really all depends on your point of view… 😛 🙂

🙂

*SWANFIRE* keeper of Neal's dream catcher

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