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[lisas]

Hey Everyone here is the first 8 1/2 mins of next weeks part 1 of the season finale on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXOtMV7UW74&feature=youtu.be

[Phee]

@LisaS wrote:

Hey Everyone here is the first 8 1/2 mins of next weeks part 1 of the season finale on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXOtMV7UW74&feature=youtu.be

We already have a separate thread discussing that:
https://oncepodcast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=3752

[MatthewPaul]

I think with these sneak peeks and the promos thus far, it seems to me that the popular Nealfire Pan theory won’t be correct. I also think Tamara is still not from FTL, especially given her comments. It’ll certainly be interesting to see as it plays out, considering it looks like the season finale won’t be as predictable compared to other episodes where we were able to correctly deduct a theory.

[Myril]

@TheGoldenKey wrote:

Regarding Peter Pan’s shadow. It wasn’t just the Disney version that had the shadow, it’s been in the musical play for years and theatre productions since its concept back in 1904.

In The Little White Bird, Peter Pan was original a spirit caught between two worlds, life and death. He wasn’t able to let go of his life. Same with other lost boys, none ready to let go and go into the light so to speak.

So it’s interesting, that his shadow looks almost wraith like, a hollow being with soulless eyes.

Indeed, reminds of the Wraith, doesn’t it. Being between life and death, sleep, dream, dream worlds … Netherworld, Neverland …

“Our life is twofold. Sleep has its own world,
A boundary between the things misnamed.
Death and existence: Sleep has its own world,
And a wide realm of wild reality.”
(Lord Byron, The Dream, 1816)

Well, my mind is right now somewhere between all these worlds, in some twilight zone, so getting weird ideas 😉

Lots to ponder. Amazed how one tiny scene can open up so many cans of worms. 😀
PS excuse the spelling errors, half asleep

Don’t mind, I am only half awake. 😆

¯\_(?????? ?)_/¯

[lisas]

@HappyEndings wrote:

Question: Why do you think David is holding Emma’s face in his shoulder and Snow’s face looks distraught too? Is this where or when Bae disappears ❓

First let me just say I’m up late because I’ve been doing homework, so bear in mind as you read my speculation that I’ve been working spec scripts & doing script interpretations for one of my classes so my speculation might be a bit outlandish.

This is just speculation on my part but I think Neal & Emma and Henry will get attacked at the Canary by Tamara & Greg

I think Neal will get sent through a portal to Neverland at the beginning of 2×22 and that is where he will meet Mulan, Philip and Auroua. I suspect He will get sent through a magic bean portal trying to help protect Emma,Henry and Rumple from Greg & Tamara

Keeper of Neal/BaelFire's Blood Magic, Neverland Crossbow, FTL Clothes,Room at Granny’s, Charming & Emma’s Father/Daughter Hugs, Henry's Neverland Crossbow, Rumplestlitskin/Mr.Gold's FTL Walking Stick

[lisas]

@MatthewPaul wrote:

I think with these sneak peeks and the promos thus far, it seems to me that the popular Nealfire Pan theory won’t be correct. I also think Tamara is still not from FTL, especially given her comments. It’ll certainly be interesting to see as it plays out, considering it looks like the season finale won’t be as predictable compared to other episodes where we were able to correctly deduct a theory.

I think Adam & Eddy may have intended it that way Matt because Adam told Matt Mitovich in that last interview with TVLine that “Our fans are smart”

Keeper of Neal/BaelFire's Blood Magic, Neverland Crossbow, FTL Clothes,Room at Granny’s, Charming & Emma’s Father/Daughter Hugs, Henry's Neverland Crossbow, Rumplestlitskin/Mr.Gold's FTL Walking Stick

[MatthewPaul]

@LisaS wrote:

@MatthewPaul wrote:

I think with these sneak peeks and the promos thus far, it seems to me that the popular Nealfire Pan theory won’t be correct. I also think Tamara is still not from FTL, especially given her comments. It’ll certainly be interesting to see as it plays out, considering it looks like the season finale won’t be as predictable compared to other episodes where we were able to correctly deduct a theory.

I think Adam & Eddy may have intended it that way Matt because Adam told Matt Mitovich in that last interview with TVLine that “Our fans are smart”

Agreed, and to me that makes this much more exciting and interesting! Though, if Neal really isn’t Peter, I do wonder if the idea had originally been considered or even planned? They almost changed it so Neal wasn’t Baelfire after all, because we were too smart and correctly guessed it a long time ago.

[hookian]

I totally called Bae NOT being Pan a long time ago, I knew it. 😀

Now if we witness in the promo it’s Pan’s SHADOW that takes Wendy and the boys to Neverland. That is huge, IMO it’s key.

Wendy was never there to patch up the shadow which means that the shadow abandoned Pan or Pan abandoned the shadow. The shadow is always known to flee from Pan and try to escape him.

This goes a long with the theory that Pan grew up and left Neverland and the shadow but the shadow remained the same because the shadow still maintains the youthful appearance of Pan.

I am almost like so freaking convinced that Killian Jones in his youth was freaking Peter Pan. Killian Jones is the adult Peter Pan.

Also Bae= John Darling not a lost boy, interesting.

[hookian]

@LisaS wrote:

@HappyEndings wrote:

Question: Why do you think David is holding Emma’s face in his shoulder and Snow’s face looks distraught too? Is this where or when Bae disappears ❓

First let me just say I’m up late because I’ve been doing homework, so bear in mind as you read my speculation that I’ve been working spec scripts & doing script interpretations for one of my classes so my speculation might be a bit outlandish.

This is just speculation on my part but I think Neal & Emma and Henry will get attacked at the Canary by Tamara & Greg

I think Neal will get sent through a portal to Neverland at the beginning of 2×22 and that is where he will meet Mulan, Philip and Auroua. I suspect He will get sent through a magic bean portal trying to help protect Emma,Henry and Rumple from Greg & Tamara

Actually I’m almost certain that Henry is whom will get sent to Neverland not Neal. Remember he’s with Mulan, Aurora, and Phillip on a beach, to me that signifies that he’s in FTL. Either that or the neatherworld and he was sucked by the wraith.

[kfchimera]

I think there is a connection between the wraith and that shadow peter pan thing too.

It did seem like Wendy had been to NL before–but perhaps that was her first trip and she was commenting on what Shadow-Peter Pan told her.

However that shadow cannot be Peter Pan if A&E are to believed that we won’t “see” Peter Pan this season.

I also agree with those who think Wendy’s London isn’t the past of “world without magic” London. That 6 mos later thing suggests there’s a gap of Neal’s “first stop”, so even if it is the same as, “world without magic” aka real world, it is consistent with not being Neal’s first stop after FTL. So it works either way.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

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