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Ooh, good point! I think you might be right. Though I’m tempted to suggest that the whole concept of happy ending is rather problematic in the first place…
Just wondering if it’s “get” in the sense of “recognize and understand” rather than “receive”.
Probably the former rather than the latter since we know that they CAN “receive” happy endings. Ingrid got hers via sacrifice but had to realize that she had it all along with her sisters, Ursula got hers recently.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Just wondering if it’s “get” in the sense of “recognize and understand” rather than “receive”.
Probably the former rather than the latter since we know that they CAN “receive” happy endings. Ingrid got hers via sacrifice but had to realize that she had it all along with her sisters, Ursula got hers recently.
Also, Regina got what she thought was her happy ending (i.e. a cursed kingdom full of amnesiacs in which she ruled supreme while watching Snow White suffer). So, technically Regina as the Evil Queen, a full on villain, already received her happy ending, too. Of course, Regina the woman struggling for redemption, still thinks she’s yet to receive her happiness in full. However, what Regina may fail to realize is that her happiness has been right in front of her eyes the entire time in the form of Henry, if only she’d accept his love as being enough. The unconditional love of a child is the greatest gift Regina could ever hope to receive as a mother, arguably even greater than a romance.
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Just wondering if it’s “get” in the sense of “recognize and understand” rather than “receive”.
I think it’s both. I mean, villains often have a skewed perception of what they think is their happy ending and how to get it.
Regina thought her happy ending in season one would be enacting the curse and in doing so, she would be happy but after what was it three days–found she was miserable and alone. You can’t take your happy ending forcefully (that’s why it continues to grate on me whenever Lana says ‘she’s going to force the author’ in interviews).
You have to earn it and fight for it fairly.
Villains don’t get a happy ending because they go about trying to get it the wrong way.
Villains don’t get a happy ending because they go about trying to get it the wrong way.
Right.
I also think it’s important to point out that HEA aren’t just handed out to heroes either. Snow and Charming (well, S1 Snow and Charming) had to fight like heck to keep their happy ending because of the villain interference. Happy Endings aren’t supposed to be easy or automatic, nor are they forever once you’ve achieved it. You still have to make the right choices in order to keep your happy ending–you don’t get to go through life willy nilly and still expect to keep your HEA.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I suppose the broader philosophy is that one’s HE cannot be at the expense of someone else’s. “Your right to swing your arms ends just where the other man’s nose begins” and all that. Unless, that is, you are Snowing (see Maleficient/Maleficient’s baby.) As long as you repent and vow to do good after that, you’ll be just fine.
Oh, those two, I can’t even…
I suppose the broader philosophy is that one’s HE cannot be at the expense of someone else’s. “Your right to swing your arms ends just where the other man’s nose begins” and all that.
This too!
Just wondering if it’s “get” in the sense of “recognize and understand” rather than “receive”.
Probably the former rather than the latter since we know that they CAN “receive” happy endings. Ingrid got hers via sacrifice but had to realize that she had it all along with her sisters, Ursula got hers recently.
Also, Regina got what she thought was her happy ending (i.e. a cursed kingdom full of amnesiacs in which she ruled supreme while watching Snow White suffer). So, technically Regina as the Evil Queen, a full on villain, already received her happy ending, too. Of course, Regina the woman struggling for redemption, still thinks she’s yet to receive her happiness in full. However, what Regina may fail to realize is that her happiness has been right in front of her eyes the entire time in the form of Henry, if only she’d accept his love as being enough. The unconditional love of a child is the greatest gift Regina could ever hope to receive as a mother, arguably even greater than a romance.
Well…I think Regina does recognize Henry as part of her happy ending, but she knows that it’s more to her happy ending than just Henry. Like Regina said, she was perfectly happy with just Henry, but she was most happy with Henry, AND Robin and Roland. If you know there’s a chance you can have 100% Happily Ever After, why just settle for 50%?
And technically….Snow White’s HEA came at the expense of Regina’s potential HEA with Daniel…and Snow White’s Want for Emma to be completely good came at the expense of Maleficent’s HEA with Lily….so I wonder sometimes if the Villain’s HEA comes at the expense of the Heroes.
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