Was Ingrid conscious in the urn?

[Felie]

Belle was feeling guilty over Anna. I’m not saying that Belle and Ingrid would react the same way, just pointing out that Belle was locked in solitary confinement too so it’s surprising she’s not a little loopy.

I’ll second that. I think most real-life people would be a quivering mess after just 2 years all alone!

I guess I just got a little offended by the comment below;

Ingrid can’t really use that as an excuse I guess

Because sometimes this line of thinking is used to discredit and victim blame people who have suffered all sorts of tragic things, since; ‘if person X can get through horrific situation Y and get on with their life, then person Z should be able to too’! < I hate this type of thinking! (don’t get me wrong though, it doesn’t mean I think we should let people who have suffered inflict suffering on others and get away with it).

[PriceofMagic]

I felt sympathy for Snow Queen this episode and don’t want her to die. Ingrid is a much better villain than Zelena. Zelena was too over the top.

All magic comes with a price!

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[Felie]

I felt sympathy for Snow Queen this episode and don’t want her to die. Ingrid is a much better villain than Zelena. Zelena was too over the top.

Agreed. Agreed. AGREED!

If she doesn’t get a happy ending after all she’s been through then… wth is wrong with the writers?!

Or – if she doesn’t get a happy ending then at least they can let her die a good-guy. Maybe by sacrificing herself to save Elsa, Anna, or Emma? She needs to find solace and receive some closure so she can move on from the loss of her sisters, something which clearly still haunts her deeply.

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[Slurpeez]

Ingrid and Elsa being trapped in the urn reminds me of a genie being trapped in his bottle. In Wonderland, we were shown that Cyrus the genie had a comfortable apartment set up in his bottle. Yet, he seemed perfectly  sane to me even after centuries inside that bottle. Maybe it’s because he was released from time to time to grant people their wishes, unlike the Snow Queen who was always trapped inside of the urn. All of that solitary confinement is bound to drive the poor lady mad. She was probably in there a good 20+  years–at least as long as it took for Elsa and Anna to grow to adulthood, since I think Ingrid was trapped in there before either princess had even been born.

I think the reason Elsa isn’t crazy like her aunt, despite also being trapped in the jar, is because she didn’t spend enough time in there. We don’t know for sure how long she was trapped inside, but it couldn’t have been more than a few years, seeing how she traveled through time in the urn, rather than being trapped in there for the entire duration of the curse. So Elsa probably wasn’t trapped in the urn for longer than three or four years, and maybe less, depending on when someone entrapped her in it.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[Keb]

Actually, with the time travelling and the timing we’ve been shown relative to Skin Deep, Elsa skipped about 4-5 years to get to the present. And she could not have been in the urn for more than a few weeks, a couple months at most.

I have a theory that Ingrid got out of the urn at least once in the intervening 2 decades from when she was bottled, though. That would explain more history between her and Rumple, among other things.

At any rate, she definitely was free–and freer than most of the EF population–during the curse years.

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