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Just tweeted Adam asking if that deleted scene is still counted as canon but maybe RumplesGirl should ask as well since she’s been getting replies from Adam so is more likely to get an answer than I am.
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Keeper of FelixAlso remember Emma stating that only Hook and Regina have been to NL 🙂
That was JMo, not Emma. And we KNOW Rumple has been to NL before. A and E and RC have said so.
I’m still torn about the doll. I think both theories abut the doll being Bae and it being Rumple’s are very strong and I’d be happy with either. The doll just seems to invoke such powerful emotions in Rumple (a doll we’ve never seen before) that I lean more toward Rumple’s side. If this was Bae’s doll we’d have seen it before. Chekov’s gun theory, remember. The fact that we can’t place the doll means that we haven’t seen it before and thus we are not aware of WHY it causes Rumple such distress. That’s why I’m more on the Rumple theory bandwagon.
And yes, I’ll try but I think you guys give me too much credit with Adam. Honestly, he maybe answers 10% of the things I ask.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"It’s been said in interviews and was alluded to in the S2 finale.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixIt’s been said in interviews and was alluded to in the S2 finale.
Rumble never said that he has he only said on the boat this is all he said: He never stated being there. Only Emma after her slip at the comic thing said that only Hook, and Regina have been to NL.
Mr. Gold: They’re merely pawns, manipulated by forces far greater than they can conceive. They have no idea who they’re truly working for.
Emma: And who’s that?
Mr. Gold: Someone we all should fear.HappyEndings wrote:Also remember Emma stating that only Hook and Regina have been to NL
That was JMo, not Emma. And we KNOW Rumple has been to NL before. A and E and RC have said so. I’m still torn about the doll. I think both theories abut the doll being Bae and it being Rumple’s are very strong and I’d be happy with either. The doll just seems to invoke such powerful emotions in Rumple (a doll we’ve never seen before) that I lean more toward Rumple’s side. If this was Bae’s doll we’d have seen it before. Chekov’s gun theory, remember. The fact that we can’t place the doll means that we haven’t seen it before and thus we are not aware of WHY it causes Rumple such distress. That’s why I’m more on the Rumple theory bandwagon. And yes, I’ll try but I think you guys give me too much credit with Adam. Honestly, he maybe answers 10% of the things I ask.
I don’t remember what interview, but Rumple implies knowledge of PP in the finale, but Regina says nothing. So other than the comment of J.Mo on a day when possibly flustered and used to talking about Hook and Regina (because of all the CS and SQ questions) not sure how accurate it was.
I think the chekov’s gun rule applies to it being Rumple as much as Bae–they did not show the token for either so it is a new object in either story. Sort of like the fail safe or bae’s shawl was not shown in season 1. This might be the first time we see it, then we get the backstory.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
1) From that scene at D23 yesterday which we’ve now read about many many many times, including a blow by blow, Rumple has obviously been to NL before. He and Felix know each other, and Felix knows him as the Dark One. He calls him that. PP and Rumple have history, which implies they know each other. Now PP could have visited FTL, sure, but given that PP is tied to NL and the time difference being thrown around and the whole “not wanting to grow up” thing, it’s far more likely that Rumple went to NL, which again, was demonstarted by that scene.
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I think the chekov’s gun rule applies to it being Rumple as much as Bae–they did not show the token for either so it is a new object in either story. Sort of like the fail safe or bae’s shawl was not shown in season 1. This might be the first time we see it, then we get the backstory.
Great point! Like I said before, I’m fine with the doll belonging to either of them at this point. But because we assume Bae did not go to NL with the doll, it was made in NL and if that is the case, we do not know how Rumple would know that it was Bae’s.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"204358 wrote:It’s been said in interviews and was alluded to in the S2 finale.
Rumble never said that he has he only said on the boat this is all he said: He never stated being there. Only Emma after her slip at the comic thing said that only Hook, and Regina have been to NL.
Mr. Gold: They’re merely pawns, manipulated by forces far greater than they can conceive. They have no idea who they’re truly working for.
Emma: And who’s that?
Mr. Gold: Someone we all should fear.Yes it is possible Gold never went there, just knew reputation. But if J. Mo said that only Hook and Regina that would be wrong as Bae did go. What she might have meant is her character only knows Hook and Regina have been there since her character thinks Bae is dead and might not know of his past in NL. It could mean she was speaking as an actress knowing behind the scenes things her character does not know so she is telling us the whole list of people on the boat with previous NL visits as you interpret, but I don’t know that she was being so accurate. I think she got used to talking about Hook and Regina because she gets asked about them more than Rumpel and R starts both Regina and Rumpel. So I could see it being that all 3 villains had previous NL experience.
Maybe Rumpel sent Regina there as his apprentice?
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
I think this got missed in the page turn, so I’ll post it again:
From that scene at D23 yesterday which we’ve now read about many many many times, including a blow by blow, Rumple has obviously been to NL before. He and Felix know each other, and Felix knows him as the Dark One. He calls him that. Even if Rumple only knew PP by reputation, he wouldn’t know Felix, who is just a Lost One.
PP and Rumple have history, which implies they know each other. Now PP could have visited FTL, sure, but given that PP is tied to NL and the time difference being thrown around and the whole “not wanting to grow up” thing, it’s far more likely that Rumple went to NL, which again, was demonstarted by that scene."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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