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Pardon the naive question, but is anyone else perhaps struck by the incredible irony of a show allegedly about the irreplaceability of love and family to have one of its main supporting male characters and his kid not being able to recognize that their wife/mom has been replaced by a leprechaun… I mean wicked witch?
Well I am now Does any one get why Zelena is seen in the mirror and not Marian? Does she have to avoid all reflective surfaces at all times?
I don’t think all mirrors show Zelarian’s true self, I think the mirror in the apartment was an artistic choice to remind the viewers that Marian is really Zelena and is making out with Robin to spite Regina. This episode was supposed to fix OQ with Zelarian but it’s only made it worse and more morally questionable. Question: Where does Zelarian and Robin stand on the consent issue? Robin isn’t being “forced” to make out with Zelarian but he thinks he’s making out with Marian and wouldn’t have made out with Zelena if he’d known it was actually her?
Ok…this episode wasn’t to fix OQ because technically Marian was declared dead, so there was no real affair. Zelarian was planned before Season 4, a week after Zelena’s death episode according to Adam. How is it morally questionable again…because a envious sister who wants everything her baby sister had steals her soul mate…that sounds a bit right in Zelena’s character.
And let’s not forget that none of this would even be happening had Rumplestilskin let well enough alone, and not even tried to kill Zelena in the first place.
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Question: Where does Zelarian and Robin stand on the consent issue? Robin isn’t being “forced” to make out with Zelarian but he thinks he’s making out with Marian and wouldn’t have made out with Zelena if he’d known it was actually her?
This. Is this the first time a body switch went to such lengths?
Question: Where does Zelarian and Robin stand on the consent issue? Robin isn’t being “forced” to make out with Zelarian but he thinks he’s making out with Marian and wouldn’t have made out with Zelena if he’d known it was actually her?
This. Is this the first time a body switch went to such lengths?
I don’t think it’s a grey area. Robin isn’t consenting to sleep with/kiss Zelena who is well aware of her actions. It can be likened to someone getting too drunk to be able to say no? They are unaware that something is being done to them, but the person doing the thing is aware. The fact that Zelena takes delight in it makes it even more reprehensable
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I don’t think it’s a grey area. Robin isn’t consenting to sleep with/kiss Zelena who is well aware of her actions. It can be likened to someone getting too drunk to be able to say no? They are unaware that something is being done to them, but the person doing the thing is aware. The fact that Zelena takes delight in it makes it even more reprehensable
It’s absolutely disgusting that Zelena is impersonating Robin’s wife after she killed her, and then carrying on romantically with Robin without his consent. When Robin kisses Zelena, he thinks he’s kissing Marian, his wife. Presumably, Robin is also sleeping with the woman he thinks he’s married to, only he’s not, because she is really Zelena. It’s sexual abuse of the highest order, because even if Robin can sense something is not right with “Marian” he has no idea just who he is dealing with or to what wicked and perverted lengths Zelena will resort to to ruin Regina’s life. It’s morally repulsive that Zelena is kissing Robin and presumably sleeping with him. It’s a form of rape if Zelena sleeps with Robin without him knowing her real identity, because it would totally be against his will; Robin would never willingly consent to have romantic relations with Zelena.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I don’t think it’s a grey area. Robin isn’t consenting to sleep with/kiss Zelena who is well aware of her actions. It can be likened to someone getting too drunk to be able to say no? They are unaware that something is being done to them, but the person doing the thing is aware. The fact that Zelena takes delight in it makes it even more reprehensable
It’s absolutely disgusting that Zelena is impersonating Robin’s wife after she killed her, and then carrying on romantically with Robin without his consent. When Robin kisses Zelena, he thinks he’s kissing Marian, his wife. Presumably, Robin is also sleeping with the woman he thinks he’s married to, only he’s not, because she is really Zelena. It’s sexual abuse of the highest order, because even if Robin can sense something is not right with “Marian” he has no idea just who he is dealing with or to what wicked and perverted lengths Zelena will resort to to ruin Regina’s life. It’s morally repulsive that Zelena is kissing Robin and presumably sleeping with him. It’s a form of rape if Zelena sleeps with Robin without him knowing her real identity, because it would totally be against his will; Robin would never willingly consent to have romantic relations with Zelena.
(Sigh) I guess it’s not really affecting me because I’ve seen much much worse on this old soap opera Passions, where the main character Kay transformed herself into her cousin Charity to sleep with Miguel….then she got pregnant.
To think soap operas prepared me for the worst of OUAT.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
re: Zelena’s pendent. Does it contain all of her magic? She had magic without it. And seemed to have at least enough magic not to die in that jail cell. What exactly does the pendant do?
From the episode summary on the wikia… Glinda explains that it’s a very special pendant which each of the witches in the sisterhood wears, and as she fastens it around Zelena’s neck, she tells her to guard it with her life because, in many ways, it now is her life. “You were born with great power, Zelena. And now… now this pendant will harness, protect and grow that power. All of it.” Zelena asks if it will make her stronger, and Glinda answers positively, however, she adds that there’s a price: without the pendant, she will become powerless. But so long as she does continue to wear it, she will be able to accomplish untold miracles.
Hang on…if she is powerless without her pendant, how is she using magic now? (Other than the 6-leaf clover, I know the power of transformation comes from that.)
"I said we needed to meet covertly. Now I see you've brought the entire Charming softball team and their pirate mascot."
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Hang on…if she is powerless without her pendant, how is she using magic now? (Other than the 6-leaf clover, I know the power of transformation comes from that.)
Zelena had power before the pendant, the pendant only made her more powerful. So I think without the pendant, Zelena still has magic, it’s just not as powerful as it could be. Zelena’s natural power is like a battery, it has to be charged up before she can use it. The pendant was like plugging something into the mains.
Notice how Glinda didn’t warn Zelena about not taking the pendant off until AFTER she had it around Zelena’s neck.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixHang on…if she is powerless without her pendant, how is she using magic now? (Other than the 6-leaf clover, I know the power of transformation comes from that.)
Do you mean the instance when Zelena’s “essence” traveled through time and space as a puff of green smoke? Yeah, that was beyond absurd, not to mention her reincarnation in a human body seems to break the law of magic that the dead cannot be resurrected. But whatevs. Ever notice how only villains seem to be resurrected on this show? Too bad Zelena misused her second chance by killing an innocent woman, stealing her identity, and raping her husband.
Zelena had power before the pendant, the pendant only made her more powerful. So I think without the pendant, Zelena still has magic, it’s just not as powerful as it could be. Zelena’s natural power is like a battery, it has to be charged up before she can use it. The pendant was like plugging something into the mains.
No, Zelena would be completely powerless without her pendant. That is why Regina took Zelena’s pendant in 3×20, to “keep it somewhere safe” and out of the way. Regina thought she had rendered Zelena powerless. That is why it’s so inconsistent that Zelena’s spirit was able to travel though a time portal to become reincarnated.
Notice how Glinda didn’t warn Zelena about not taking the pendant off until AFTER she had it around Zelena’s neck.
That’s because Glinda is shady, like the Blue Fairy.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Glinda is a lying liar who lies. She told Regina she couldn’t enter the portal because of her dark heart and we know Snow had a dark spot on her heart and now its come out that The Charmings have done dastardly deeds.
Glinda is a lying liar who lies. She told Regina she couldn’t enter the portal because of her dark heart and we know Snow had a dark spot on her heart and now its come out that The Charmings have done dastardly deeds.
or PLOT.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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