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Then what inspired Hook to leave NL and go back to FTL? That’s why it fits for me that he discovered the info about a weapon via Bae somehow, even if not directly or intentionally. Hook went to NL so he’d have all the time in the world to figure out how to get his revenge. There was someone (Bae) in NL who knew there was a weapon that could kill Rumple. Then Hook shows up back in FTL again, trying to find out more info about the mystery weapon.
[adrotate group="5"]I agree, I think Bae let it slip somehow, especially if he learned Rumple killed his mother.
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I don’t think Bae knows Rumple killed Milah. That would have been one of the first things he brought up when reunited with his father in Manhattan.
In fact, I don’t think Hook knew that the boy he meets was Milah’s son (not at first, anyway).
I think either one of two things happened:
1) Bae found out that Hook was out for revenge and wanted to kill his father and that’s why he fled Neverland without Hook ever knowing who he really was -or –
2) Hook eventually did find out that Bae was Milah’s son, tried to get info out of Bae about how to kill his father and that ‘s why Bae fled Neverland.
Either way, I don’t think Bae mentioned anything to Hook about how to kill his father.
Why would he? He didn’t want him dead.
They associated the fact that Hook knew there was a magical weapon that could kill The Dark One with knowing about Belle. I believe they did that for a reason.
I agree with TGK – whoever told Hook about Belle also told him about the ‘weapon’.Bae may have let something slip but he didn’t say it was the dagger or that Rumple had to be stabbed in the heart with it. That is what my initial post was about.
When we first see Hook, back in the EF, he not only knows that there is a magical weapon, he also knows about Belle. The information about Belle could not have come Bae. There has to be a 3rd party involved. It didn’t come from Cora and EQ either as he met both for the first time after he attacked Belle. So, I’m thinking there is more to this story than we realize.
Why he chose at this particular time to return, I don’t know. Could be that Bae let something slip but I’m thinking there is more to it than that and may involve Belle’s father, Sir Maurice. There was a connection between Moe French and William Smee in SB, so perhaps Sir Maurice was looking for someone (a pirate) to get back his daughter from Rumple and word got around between worlds. I just find the connection between Belle/Maurice/Smee/Rumple/Hook has a little more to it than what we are seeing. 😀
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@Gypsy wrote:
In fact, I don’t think Hook knew that the boy he meets was Milah’s son (not at first, anyway).
I hadn’t been thinking he knew either, but the new pic of Hook and Bae on the ship has made me question if perhaps he did know. Hook seems to be gesturing towards a place on the ship’s deck, and Bae’s looking where he’s pointing with a heartbroken expression, whilst clutching a picture that appears to be a portrait of someone.
The pic could either be a pic of Milah, (that Bae finds and he questions Hook about it), or maybe a pic of Bae that Milah drew during her time with Hook, (which is how he recognises the kid). Hook could be pointing to the spot where Rumple killed her. That could explain why the kid looks devastated.
@TheGoldenKey wrote:
When we first see Hook, back in the EF, he not only knows that there is a magical weapon, he also knows about Belle. The information about Belle could not have come Bae. There has to be a 3rd party involved.
True. If Hook was tracking Rumple’s movements in FTL, that surely would have led him to Belle’s homeland at some point and discovered that she went to live with him, (your idea about him actually being hired to find Belle is intriguing). How many people would have known that Regina had Belle locked up? That information can’t have been too easy for Hook to come by.
@TheGoldenKey wrote:
Bae may have let something slip but he didn’t say it was the dagger or that Rumple had to be stabbed in the heart with it. That is what my initial post was about.
When we first see Hook, back in the EF, he not only knows that there is a magical weapon, he also knows about Belle. The information about Belle could not have come Bae. There has to be a 3rd party involved. It didn’t come from Cora and EQ either as he met both for the first time after he attacked Belle. So, I’m thinking there is more to this story than we realize.
Why he chose at this particular time to return, I don’t know. Could be that Bae let something slip but I’m thinking there is more to it than that and may involve Belle’s father, Sir Maurice. There was a connection between Moe French and William Smee in SB, so perhaps Sir Maurice was looking for someone (a pirate) to get back his daughter from Rumple and word got around between worlds. I just find the connection between Belle/Maurice/Smee/Rumple/Hook has a little more to it than what we are seeing. 😀
Well Hook knew about Belle from Regina – in FTL before the curse, remember he approached Belle when she was being held captive by Regina and she said she wouldn’t help him kill Rumple so Hook knocked her out.
I don’t think Neal would have confronted Gold about killing Milah when they were reunited. He pretty much didn’t want to even talk to him and it had been 300 years, I think he just wanted to let Gold talk so the conversation would be over with. Neal doesn’t seem to want to discuss any of the issues he has with Gold he just wants to stay away from him.
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@TheGoldenKey wrote:
Bae may have let something slip but he didn’t say it was the dagger or that Rumple had to be stabbed in the heart with it. That is what my initial post was about.
When we first see Hook, back in the EF, he not only knows that there is a magical weapon, he also knows about Belle. The information about Belle could not have come Bae. There has to be a 3rd party involved. It didn’t come from Cora and EQ either as he met both for the first time after he attacked Belle. So, I’m thinking there is more to this story than we realize.
Why he chose at this particular time to return, I don’t know. Could be that Bae let something slip but I’m thinking there is more to it than that and may involve Belle’s father, Sir Maurice. There was a connection between Moe French and William Smee in SB, so perhaps Sir Maurice was looking for someone (a pirate) to get back his daughter from Rumple and word got around between worlds. I just find the connection between Belle/Maurice/Smee/Rumple/Hook has a little more to it than what we are seeing. 😀
Well Hook knew about Belle from Regina – in FTL before the curse, remember he approached Belle when she was being held captive by Regina and she said she wouldn’t help him kill Rumple so Hook knocked her out.
I don’t think Neal would have confronted Gold about killing Milah when they were reunited. He pretty much didn’t want to even talk to him and it had been 300 years, I think he just wanted to let Gold talk so the conversation would be over with. Neal doesn’t seem to want to discuss any of the issues he has with Gold he just wants to stay away from him.
Hook did not find out about Belle from Regina. Regina knew about Hook but they met for the first time when she stopped him from killing Belle. That’s why she said to Hook “Yes, I know who you are.”.
Evil Queen: Is that any way to address a queen? Even a pirate should have better manners than that. Yes… I know who you are… Captain. I know why you came here from Neverland. And I know all about the crocodile you wish to skin.
I agree with Gypsy. I think two things would have come out between Neal and Rumple, his abandonment and the murder of his mother. There is no way Neal would not have addressed Rumple killing Milah. I believe that’s what is going to be the game changer this Sunday. Hook is going to let the cat out of the bag and Neal will never forgive Rumple for it. The writers have been saving this little nugget of gold for the season’s finale. 😀
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I can see Bae letting it slip about something that could kill Rumple, however I can also see that he would do it on purpose. Not out of vengeance, but for the greater good. If he learned that Rumple killed Milah he might realize that Rumple has gone too far and must be stopped. However he knows he could never kill his Papa himself, so he tells Hook that there is something that can kill Rumple. However he doesn’t know what his father has done with it, which is why Hook has to seek out Belle to try and find out.
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@Red192 wrote:
I can see Bae letting it slip about something that could kill Rumple, however I can also see that he would do it on purpose. Not out of vengeance, but for the greater good. If he learned that Rumple killed Milah he might realize that Rumple has gone too far and must be stopped. However he knows he could never kill his Papa himself, so he tells Hook that there is something that can kill Rumple. However he doesn’t know what his father has done with it, which is why Hook has to seek out Belle to try and find out.
Ohhh, very interesting theory! Normally, I’m not sure how Baelfire could betray his father like that, but just maybe a combo of feeling betrayed by Rumple and hearing how his father murdered his mother in cold blood would be enough to make Bae let it slip in a moment of extreme weakness. If Captain Hook is playing the role of a kind father figure to Bae, he might just be playing on Bae’s vulnerability to wheedle that information out of him. In the cartoon version of Peter Pan, Captain Hook played on Tinker Bell’s sympathies of feeling rejected by Peter so that she gave up the location of Peter’s hideout to Hook.
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