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September 25, 2013 at 10:33 pm #212105
RumplesGirl
KeymasterWhich of these shows do you think would be the most empowering to women, of the ones you’ve seen?
Mad Men *can* be empowering. It’s very male centric but the two females leads, Peggy and Joan slowly rise through the ranks of the 1960s business world, through different means. Joan does use her sex and her body to get her to places. Peggy pretty much refuses to be any kind of sex kitten and gets to the top a lot faster. You may really want to dive into Mad Men. First off, it’s just absolutely brilliant. Maybe one of the most analized shows on Tv, so lots of material out on it. Secondly, Peggy is really remarakable as a woman who refuses to be classified just by her gender. And the first season is all about her and her weight and how’s shes not the “pretty” model type like the rest of the girls in the office. If you decide to investigate, lemme know. I know a really great blog site that breaks down all the characters and what they wear and how we’re supposed to view them.
Then, Gilmore Girls. All the women are strong, if slightly crazy at time. Sookie is flighty but isn’t strictly comic relief.
Grey’s Anatomy.
Those would be mine.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"September 25, 2013 at 10:41 pm #212108AtlanticaDream
ParticipantYou may really want to dive into Mad Men. First off, it’s just absolutely brilliant. Maybe one of the most analized shows on Tv, so lots of material out on it. Secondly, Peggy is really remarakable as a woman who refuses to be classified just by her gender. And the first season is all about her and her weight and how’s shes not the “pretty” model type like the rest of the girls in the office. If you decide to investigate, lemme know. I know a really great blog site that breaks down all the characters and what they wear and how we’re supposed to view them.
I would definitely take that for future reference! Do you know off the top of your head which episode you would pick out of curiosity?
One of my friends really recommended Girls to me, because she is plus size, yet she gets naked and is comfortable with her body anyways, apparently it stirred up quite a bit of controversy because people were calling her out for doing that. I haven’t watched it yet though.
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September 25, 2013 at 10:51 pm #212110RumplesGirl
KeymasterI would definitely take that for future reference! Do you know off the top of your head which episode you would pick out of curiosity? One of my friends really recommended Girls to me, because she is plus size, yet she gets naked and is comfortable with her body anyways, apparently it stirred up quite a bit of controversy because people were calling her out for doing that. I haven’t watched it yet though.
I haven’t seen girls, but knowing what I do know of it, yes absolutely.
Ok Mad Men episodes
101: Smoke Gets in Your Eyes
102: Ladies Room
103: Marriage of Figaro
108: Hobo Code
109: Shoot
110: Long Weekend
111: Indian Summer
113: The Wheel (possible one of the finest hours of TV ever)
201: For Those Who Think Young
203: The Benefactor (a MUST for your thesis if you go this directoin with Mad Men)
204: Three Sundays
205: The New Girl
208: A Night to Remember
209: Six Month Leave (the death of Marilyn Monroe and her affect on the office women, especially Joan)
212: The Mountain King
305: The Fog (Betty gives birth to her 3rd child and has a waking dream that really shows her views on what its like to be a housewife and how important her image was to her)
402: Christmas Comes but Once a Year (a look at the way men see women in ads)
407: The Suitcase (how men and women empower each other…also best episode of the entire series)
409: The Beautiful Girls
413: Tomorrowland
511: The Other Woman (another MUST)
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"September 25, 2013 at 11:04 pm #212115AtlanticaDream
Participant101: Smoke Gets in Your Eyes 102: Ladies Room 103: Marriage of Figaro 108: Hobo Code 109: Shoot 110: Long Weekend 111: Indian Summer 113: The Wheel (possible one of the finest hours of TV ever) 201: For Those Who Think Young 203: The Benefactor (a MUST for your thesis if you go this directoin with Mad Men) 204: Three Sundays 205: The New Girl 208: A Night to Remember 209: Six Month Leave (the death of Marilyn Monroe and her affect on the office women, especially Joan) 212: The Mountain King 305: The Fog (Betty gives birth to her 3rd child and has a waking dream that really shows her views on what its like to be a housewife and how important her image was to her) 402: Christmas Comes but Once a Year (a look at the way men see women in ads) 407: The Suitcase (how men and women empower each other…also best episode of the entire series) 409: The Beautiful Girls 413: Tomorrowland 511: The Other Woman (another MUST)
The only problem is I’m gonna have 20-30 minutes tops to show them it lol do the episodes sort of stand on their own, or do you need to have watched the previous episodes to make sense of the new ones? (like Once lol)
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September 25, 2013 at 11:09 pm #212117RumplesGirl
KeymasterThe only problem is I’m gonna have 20-30 minutes tops to show them it lol do the episodes sort of stand on their own, or do you need to have watched the previous episodes to make sense of the new ones? (like Once lol)
Hmm. It’s sorta both. Sometimes you do need to have background on what happened previously, but a lot of time they are more standalone and are focused more thematically rather than arc. But if you’re pulling out clips to show them then there is definitely a treasure trove in Mad Men of women and their bodies. If you *need* to show one epsidoe and one episode only then I’d go with 101: Smoke Gets in Your Eyes or 511: The Other Woman. For the latter you can set up the basic plot and characters before hand if you need to, I suppose. But 101 really shows you the divide between men and women but also how Peggy is divided from the rest of the women workforce because she refuses to be like them–uber sexed and how this in turn makes the men of the office treat her differently because they can’t treat her as an object of desire, try as they might.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"September 25, 2013 at 11:12 pm #212119AtlanticaDream
ParticipantAtlanticaDream wrote: The only problem is I’m gonna have 20-30 minutes tops to show them it lol do the episodes sort of stand on their own, or do you need to have watched the previous episodes to make sense of the new ones? (like Once lol)
Hmm. It’s sorta both. Sometimes you do need to have background on what happened previously, but a lot of time they are more standalone and are focused more thematically rather than arc. But if you’re pulling out clips to show them then there is definitely a treasure trove in Mad Men of women and their bodies. If you *need* to show one epsidoe and one episode only then I’d go with 101: Smoke Gets in Your Eyes or 511: The Other Woman. For the latter you can set up the basic plot and characters before hand if you need to, I suppose. But 101 really shows you the divide between men and women but also how Peggy is divided from the rest of the women workforce because she refuses to be like them–uber sexed and how this in turn makes the men of the office treat her differently because they can’t treat her as an object of desire, try as they might.
This actually sounds like a really interesting show, I might have to start watching it regardless if I use it or not lol
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September 25, 2013 at 11:18 pm #212120RumplesGirl
KeymasterThis actually sounds like a really interesting show, I might have to start watching it regardless if I use it or not lol
It’s on AMC but seasons 1-5 are on Netflix. It’s won the Emmy for best drama 4x in a row. It’s probably one of the best written, best acted, most thoughtful and most profound shows I’ve ever seen. It’s analyzed to death because everything in the show can be deconstructed, from dialogue to clothing to music to the ads the fictional agency is making. I suspect that someday books will be written about the psychology of the leads characters.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"September 25, 2013 at 11:25 pm #212121AtlanticaDream
ParticipantAtlanticaDream wrote: This actually sounds like a really interesting show, I might have to start watching it regardless if I use it or not lol
It’s on AMC but seasons 1-5 are on Netflix. It’s won the Emmy for best drama 4x in a row. It’s probably one of the best written, best acted, most thoughtful and most profound shows I’ve ever seen. It’s analyzed to death because everything in the show can be deconstructed, from dialogue to clothing to music to the ads the fictional agency is making. I suspect that someday books will be written about the psychology of the leads characters.
Well that’s impressive lol, I will have to check it out lol
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September 26, 2013 at 5:59 am #212138Gaultheria
ParticipantThe Iron Giant, with its theme of “You are who you choose to be”, is definitely about body image, and it pulls all the heartstrings.
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September 26, 2013 at 6:52 pm #212305AtlanticaDream
ParticipantThe Iron Giant, with its theme of “You are who you choose to be”, is definitely about body image, and it pulls all the heartstrings.
Awh I remember that movie! I watched it forever ago lol
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