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June 20, 2014 at 5:49 pm #274715RumplesGirlKeymaster
HOLY CRAP! That would be EPIC! But…the only thing is…I can’t see Kristoff cheating on Anna. It would definitely explain Snow being born in the harshest winter due to Elsa’ wrath.
Good point, but what if Eva cheated on Leopold with Elsa’s man? Hence why Elsa’s wrath would be directed at Eva causing the harshest winter. Perhaps Elsa turned her cheating partner into a snowman?
*sigh* No more scorned lovers. Please. This idea that you take away a man and suddenly the woman falls into darkness and evil is just…nope.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"June 20, 2014 at 6:06 pm #274719PriceofMagicParticipantHOLY CRAP! That would be EPIC! But…the only thing is…I can’t see Kristoff cheating on Anna. It would definitely explain Snow being born in the harshest winter due to Elsa’ wrath.
Good point, but what if Eva cheated on Leopold with Elsa’s man? Hence why Elsa’s wrath would be directed at Eva causing the harshest winter. Perhaps Elsa turned her cheating partner into a snowman?
*sigh* No more scorned lovers. Please. This idea that you take away a man and suddenly the woman falls into darkness and evil is just…nope.
I’m not saying Elsa would fall into darkness and evil but hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Elsa’s powers are linked to her emotions so when she’s angry, expect one heck of a snowstorm.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixJune 20, 2014 at 6:15 pm #274723RumplesGirlKeymasterI’m not saying Elsa would fall into darkness and evil but hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Elsa’s powers are linked to her emotions so when she’s angry, expect one heck of a snowstorm.
And we’ve just seen it with Zelena. And it was shrill and unbearable.
This idea of hell hath no fury like a woman scorned is rather sexist, IMO. Not every woman falls to pieces and begins to plot and plan and think of ways to destroy that big ol’ mean man who hurt them.
And her emotions are FEAR. Not being scorned. Fear that she can’t control her own powers and will hurt someone. To reduce to “she got hurt by a guy” just…no.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"June 20, 2014 at 7:13 pm #274730WickedRegalParticipantI’m not saying Elsa would fall into darkness and evil but hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Elsa’s powers are linked to her emotions so when she’s angry, expect one heck of a snowstorm.
And we’ve just seen it with Zelena. And it was shrill and unbearable. This idea of hell hath no fury like a woman scorned is rather sexist, IMO. Not every woman falls to pieces and begins to plot and plan and think of ways to destroy that big ol’ mean man who hurt them. And her emotions are FEAR. Not being scorned. Fear that she can’t control her own powers and will hurt someone. To reduce to “she got hurt by a guy” just…no.
Considering we’re bound to get the “Hell Hath No Fury Like A Woman Scorned” with Regina/Robin/Marian…I’d say they will save that for them.
But you never know…a part of me does think that when Anna marries Kristoff, she didn’t have any time left for Elsa, and that made her lonely. Maybe Elsa did fall in love, but lost it thus sending her powers back over the edge, then she allows Rumple to seal her away to stop it. My only worry is that Kristoff is the man Elsa may have loved, and him choosing Anna still sent her over the edge, and she lets Rumple seal her away to let her sister and Kristoff be happy, while also saving her kingdom from her unstoppable Winter Curse.
Now…I still believe that the piece missing in Young Regina is connected to Elsa, as whatever happened between her, Elsa, and Rumple scared/guilt Regina out of learning Rumple’s magic lessons as we saw in Quite A Common Fairy.
And quick question…if Frozen Characters stuck around to be Best Supporting after Season 4A, what do you think their roles in SB will be?
For Elsa, I imagine her to have some sort of position of power….my first call is for Elsa to be the School Principle of SB, and to act as the best friend for Regina(considering Rose McIver won’t be playing Tinkerbelle no time soon).
Anna, I can see her being like a School Teacher working with Snow White at the School…I think Anna would get along great with Snow and Emma.
Olaf, the best freaking school teacher ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kristoff, I can see him being a mechanic for some odd reason, since poor Gus Gus was chopped into pieces by King George.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
June 20, 2014 at 7:18 pm #274732RumplesGirlKeymasterMy only worry is that Kristoff is the man Elsa may have loved, and him choosing Anna still sent her over the edge, and she lets Rumple seal her away to let her sister and Kristoff be happy, while also saving her kingdom from her unstoppable Winter Curse.
I don’t see this happening even for a second. They’ve had one triangle. They are going to have another. They aren’t about to shove one like this on us. To make Elsa misunderstood and all her actions come from a man is just not even close to what Frozen is about, at it’s heart.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"June 20, 2014 at 7:22 pm #274733WickedRegalParticipantMy only worry is that Kristoff is the man Elsa may have loved, and him choosing Anna still sent her over the edge, and she lets Rumple seal her away to let her sister and Kristoff be happy, while also saving her kingdom from her unstoppable Winter Curse.
I don’t see this happening even for a second. They’ve had one triangle. They are going to have another. They aren’t about to shove one like this on us. To make Elsa misunderstood and all her actions come from a man is just not even close to what Frozen is about, at it’s heart.
I don’t want my Kristanna ship screwed up, but this is after the Frozen Movie. There’s really no telling where they may be leading us with this story…only two things are picked up by Elsa’s appearance, and how she’s acted so far.
1. Elsa is out to kick whoever locked her away (beep), and find her sister.
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2. Elsa’s about to find out who unleashed her, and why. And find her sister.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
June 20, 2014 at 7:25 pm #274735RumplesGirlKeymasterI don’t want my Kristanna ship screwed up, but this is after the Frozen Movie. There’s really no telling where they may be leading us with this story…only two things are picked up by Elsa’s appearance, and how she’s acted so far.
Yes it is after the Frozen movie but that doesn’t mean that they are going to rip out the heart of the movie and subvert into some trite horrible wishy washy love triangle nonsense.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"June 20, 2014 at 7:32 pm #274737WickedRegalParticipantI don’t want my Kristanna ship screwed up, but this is after the Frozen Movie. There’s really no telling where they may be leading us with this story…only two things are picked up by Elsa’s appearance, and how she’s acted so far.
Yes it is after the Frozen movie but that doesn’t mean that they are going to rip out the heart of the movie and subvert into some trite horrible wishy washy love triangle nonsense.
@RumplesGirl….this is Adam Horrowitz and Eddy Kitsis we’re talking about….the ones who turned the Wicked Witch of the East into the Good Witch of the East. The ones who didn’t even include Scarecrow, Tinman, or Lion. The ones who made Peter Pan evil. The ones who killed Neal.There’s no telling what they’re capable of doing, all we can do is hope that they run it by their kids first. If their kids are happy with it, I’m hoping we will be too. But like I said…I just don’t have the best feeling with them tampering with Frozen this early….
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
June 20, 2014 at 7:43 pm #274739RumplesGirlKeymasterThe world has obviously gone mad if I’m defending A and E and @WR is trying to convince that they are not to be trusted.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"June 20, 2014 at 8:44 pm #274741Jenna_BParticipantI think our headcannons are spinning a little out of control (whose? ours? Never! 🙂 ). I think whatever story they’re planning with Frozen HAS to be fairly simple for two reasons – and this is assuming Elsa is the ‘big bad’ of 4A, which I’m still not convinced about…
1) Every other “villains'” backstory is fairly simple – Regina lost Daniel, Rumple lost Bae, Zelena was abandoned by Cora and rejected by her adoptive father, Hook lost Milah…oh look, a theme…wait, Pan was just pure evil. No wait, maybe he wasn’t. He was selfish when he chose NL/childhood and abandoned Rumple, but maybe that’s what caused him to become more evil over the years…anyway, back to the point. The backstories are fairly simple. Come to think of it, most of the characters’ stories in general are fairly simple…
2) Elsa herself is only supposed to be in about 9 episodes, and I believe Anna and the dude (still haven’t actually seen Frozen yet, gotta get on that) are in fewer. That’s a really short period of time to give them complex stories, much less at least attempt to make them believable.
I think it’s a lot more simple – the concept of Elsa as the ‘Big Bad’ is all about perception. People think she’s dangerous because of her powers, so Rumple locks her away. Rumple certainly wouldn’t think twice about doing something like that – especially if he believes that person is stronger than him. The town believes she’s evil so they try to ‘defeat’ her, only to realize there’s nothing to defeat. Anna and dude find out she’s been released and come to find/save her.
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