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I’m seriously wondering about this. Personally I think modern copyright law is a bit too strict and I much prefer the social contract/doujin system they have in japan for example, though for things like OUAT that’d be kind of moot.
I was pretty shocked when they namedropped Rufio since that was not a Disney property. It seems to be equivalent, for example, of namedropping the Wicked Witch as Elphaba.
I was wondering how much they go out of their way to get the rights to certain adaptions? They’ve been lucky that Disney owns almost everything iconic and fairytale/storybook related that isn’t public domain but not everything.
I was wondering with the Regina/Tink backstory if they were going to use that as a backstory to a Wicked-like Oz adaption. I can see the Glinda/Elphaba story being used as the flashback sequences for an eventual Regina/Tink episode if they could link them together somehow.
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I was pretty shocked when they namedropped Rufio since that was not a Disney property. It seems to be equivalent, for example, of namedropping the Wicked Witch as Elphaba.
We’ve talked a lot about this in another thread but the Rufio example isn’t as extreme as we might think. They name dropped but they were not referring to a specific Rufio (i.e. the one from Hook). The AUDIENCE got the reference but anyone can be named Rufio, so chances are they had to pay very little for using his name. Any person can be a Rufio but only a guy with a red streak, and yelling Bangarang can be RUFIOOOOOOO from Hook.
Same goes with the red slippers. In 303, Neal made a reference to them as a way to make a portal. But any slippers can be red without having to be tied to Oz and Dorothy.
However, chances are they cannot use Elphaba as a name since the rights to that are licenced pretty heavily. What DISNEY can use is “Theodora” from Oz the Great and Powerful. we’re pretty sure Rebecaa Mader’s new character is going to be her. Also, they could use the green skin associated with the Wicked Witch so long as it was a different shade of green. Loopholes.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I think rights to TV & Film are two different things also though and one doesn’t necessarily follow from the other, which could be the other reason. The issue with stuff like Wicked is that it’s so heavily based in another (I believe public domain property) property that things like exclusive rights probably work more awkwardly.
It just doesn’t seem worth it to me unless they can use a version of Elphaba. Maybe I love her too much but like… it feels wrong? Oz The Great and Powerful rubs me the wrong way too. I was never a huge Oz fan though, I like the kind of crazy setting but not the original narrative and Baum’s racism. Wicked, especially the musical version(the book was a bit too SEX DRUGS AND EDGY POLITICS), really made it work I feel.
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Yes but Elphaba wouldn’t be a one off: she’d be a major reoccurring role. So they’d have to really shell out the $$$$ for it. And out ratings aren’t great enough (fine but nothing that would warrant ABC/Disney going to a HUGE rival company and shelling out that much cash) for that. Also, the company that does own Wicked and its character would probably not want to give her up to Disney.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Great place to post this: I think we may have had an Ozian thing in WL. Remember when Jafars mother died and that dust came out of her? Then when Jafar died and the dust brought him back? I think its the Powder of Life from Oz. It was powder that when sprinkled on anything or anyone (and saying three words) would bring the person or thing to life!
Just putting this out there because Disney owns Return To Oz where the powder came into the story (though it is in the books though) and I think Once would go there and use it >>
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
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True, RG. I believe Universal owns the film tights to the wicked MUSICAL. But the novel from which it was based on is set to become a miniseries on ABC (which means it will be dark, gritty, and lets not forget: The Philosophy Club 😉 ). So if Once maybe did wanna dip into that, could they?
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICRumplesGirl wrote: Yes but Elphaba wouldn’t be a one off: she’d be a major reoccurring role. So they’d have to really shell out the $$$$ for it. And out ratings aren’t great enough (fine but nothing that would warrant ABC/Disney going to a HUGE rival company and shelling out that much cash) for that. Also, the company that does own Wicked and its character would probably not want to give her up to Disney.
True, RG. I believe Universal owns the film tights to the wicked MUSICAL. But the novel from which it was based on is set to become a miniseries on ABC (which means it will be dark, gritty, and lets not forget: The Philosophy Club
). So if Once maybe did wanna dip into that, could they? Yes Universal does and they ain’t letting that go to ABC/Disney for all the tea in China
If it is true that ABC is getting a miniseries based on the book…then I bet they don’t shell out any more cash for ONCE.
It’s cheaper to go the Oz G and P route at this point.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Just to point out – if they REALLY WANTED to do it, they could. Glee is not Universal and has used not only the songs but the characters, costumes and sets associated with Wicked in 2 episodes(and I will never watch them, lol). It’s also possible to work out a deal like was done with Quicksilver for the Avengers/X-men movies, I doubt Universal actually cares that much about a version of the character that’s probably different from the one they’ll end up using being put in a TV show, if anything it’ll help drum up recognition(but corps can be REALLY DUMB sometimes especially when it comes to copyright, so who knows). It will cost them but it might be worth it to bring attention back to the show since it’d be the first usage of Wicked characters outside of the book and musical.
This is why I’m hoping they put it on the long finger because they seemed to really want to get Oz right, and this might be one of the things they had in mind, especially setting up parallels to the Elphaba/Glinda story with Regina and Tink, which is useful for flashback purposes since they love parallels.
Most interpretations that have used Disney versions have been classic Disney movies – Oz the great and powerful didn’t do well critically or in the box office. It would make more sense to start over.
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, I like the kind of crazy setting but not the original narrative and Baum’s racism. Wicked, especially the musical version(the book was a bit too SEX DRUGS AND EDGY POLITICS), really made it work I feel.
The musical version of Wicked is too…. disney-fied as it is. I love it and all but once I read the book, I loved the book more. People love elphaba and forget that she isn’t the wicked witch… That is just ONE of many versions of the witch and not the official one. Thats why some people HATED Oz that great and powerful before it even came out. Thats why some people hate the Broadway version of the wizard of oz (most recent one) because the witch is actually EVIL. Dont get me wrong, I love Elphie and Galinda and Fiyero, and Nessa and all them. But if Once does Oz I hope its not Wicked version. We can’t add more fuel to that fire. Its getting its own show soon afterall (though based on the novel)
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICJust to point out – if they REALLY WANTED to do it, they could. Glee is not Universal and has used not only the songs but the characters, costumes and sets associated with Wicked in 2 episodes(and I will never watch them, lol).
If they wanted to, sure. Disney could do anything if it really wanted to. But when you’re looking at several MILLION shelled out to Universal vs something you already own (Oz the G and P)….well ABC like its money.
Also I would argue that Fox isn’t Disney. Sure, it’s a studio in it’s own right but this is DISNEY. Good lord, what hasn’t it bought and gobbled up in recent years?
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