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October 21, 2014 at 3:11 pm #286675
PriceofMagic
ParticipantIn all honesty, I think the only reason why Rumple is lying to Belle is because the writers needed to give RumBelle angst this season. Ever noticed how when they are not having angst, Belle is barely on screen.
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Keeper of FelixOctober 21, 2014 at 3:12 pm #286676RumplesGirl
KeymasterIn all honesty, I think the only reason why Rumple is lying to Belle is because the writers needed to give RumBelle angst this season. Ever noticed how when they are not having angst, Belle is barely on screen.
Is she on screen now? I mean, besides as window dressing?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 21, 2014 at 5:18 pm #286702PriceofMagic
ParticipantNothing’s hit the fan yet. If RumBelle are happy, they tend not to show it.
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Keeper of FelixOctober 21, 2014 at 11:29 pm #286795obisgirl
ParticipantIf he gets enough magic, he can be free of the dagger’s control–the chief limit to his powers. He can be free and keep his powers…But it’s also pointing to addiction
Oh, this quest can easily turn into Rumple going around and getting all the power he needs and once he gets all those powers, struggling between breaking his curse or keeping the hat to make himself more powerful.
I get that after essentially being a slave, Rumple would want to make sure that it never happened again, I just wish it didn’t involve lying. If it really is to have all the power but be free of his curse, then can’t he explain this to Belle? I actually think she’d be supportive given that she saw what it was like when Rumple was controlled. The more Rumple lies, the bigger hole he digs.
I agree and he really isn’t making matters any better by using other people to cover his tracks too.
October 24, 2014 at 2:55 am #287137schaendlich
ParticipantI think it’s the other way around: the Dark One wants to be free of its human host. I think it’s most likely that the Dark One entity wants to die, and that it’s long been manipulating its hosts to this end, just like its hosts — when their burden becomes too great — trick others into taking up tne power and the curse of the dagger.
You always have the most interesting theories. I agree.
(Kinda)Crack Theory:
I think it wants to be let loose, or to take over it’s host. We’ve got hints and clues that Regina and Rumpel’s side stories are going to draw together into a bigger plot. Yensid might have written the book/created the DO. The artifact will release the DO, and the the curse itself could be the next big bad.
I wondered a while ago if the Dark One was ever supposed to live as long as Rumpel has. I always figured that all of them eventually gave up/went insane, and passed it on. I also wondered why a “curse” had very few negative affects to it. Now we may be delving into what it really means to be the DO. I have a headcannon that the DO is every evil, perversion, gray area of EF combined into a spirit (now possibly by Yensid) and sealed in a dagger that humans mistakenly took unto themselves. The spirit feeds on it’s host and all of it’s greed, lusts, etc. until the host is empty and destroys itself. The only reason Rumpel was still around to be one of the most infamous of Dark Ones is because he was driven. It’s all a perfect set up. Rumpel has even lost Bae, so he no longer has that extreme driving force(yes, there is Belle, but happiness/love, is less extreme than “Oh God. Dropped my kid into a place. Hope he isn’t dead.”). The curse is ready to leech him and skedaddle, or use him to release it, since he’s been so resilient. He thinks it’s going to free him, but that’s a lie, fed to him by the evil desire living in his heart and his dagger.
That’d also play into why Rumpel has been giving an especially low number of *coughcough* cares… for people as of late. The curse is in it’s last throws of consuming him, and his heart is/will get blacker than Regina’s ever was. Maybe we’re soon going to learn why TLK has stopped working in Rumbelle.
October 24, 2014 at 11:13 am #287155Slurpeez
ParticipantThat’d also play into why Rumpel has been giving an especially low number of *coughcough* cares… for people as of late. The curse is in it’s last throws of consuming him, and his heart is/will get blacker than Regina’s ever was. Maybe we’re soon going to learn why TLK has stopped working in Rumbelle.
I thought the primary reason that TLK didn’t work in SB was because of the “magic is different there” argument. The dark one curse is specific to the Enchanted Forest –hence why Rumple doesn’t look green in A Land Without Magic. If Belle had just kissed Rumple when they were back in the EF during then missing year, then TLK actually would’ve worked.
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October 24, 2014 at 11:58 am #287168schaendlich
ParticipantI thought the primary reason that TLK didn’t work in SB was because of the “magic is different there” argument. The dark one curse is specific to the Enchanted Forest –hence why Rumple doesn’t look green in A Land Without Magic. If Belle had just kissed Rumple when they were back in the EF during then missing year, then TLK actually would’ve worked.
I dunno if I buy that. Especially considering all of the attributes of the curse are present. The only thing that is different is his appearance. It’s still a curse, even in Storybrooke. By this “different magic” logic, TLK wouldn’t break any curse there, but we’ve seen that it has. Even curses originating in EF. No, I think there is either an exact reason it’s not working, or the writers are just glancing over it to keep Rumpel’s power.
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