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I don’t think the hotel scene was their first time. Far from it. I got the feeling like they’d been together a few months. Living in a car. Making out right outside the convient store they stole from… it just gave me a vibe that they’ve been together (in every sense of the word) for awhile now. They’ve been taking care of each other, been physical, yet the hotel scene was really when they really became emotionally involved. It’s one thing to pile in a car together and have sex, it’s another to decide to live your life with someone. And that’s what they were deciding in the hotel room. A very big moment for them both. As the next scene in the park where they tell each other they love one another for the first time.
Anyway, to folks who think Neal isn’t the father that’s just.. weird. Who else would it be? She was with Neal and then was in prison so… it’s just silly.
[adrotate group="5"]“There are none so blind than those who will not see”
I can’t believe some ppl still doubt this fact.
K&H have confirmed it.They may be ambiguous or throw a red herring out there from time to time, but they don’t flat out lie. It’s not their style….never was.
They know alot of this show’s popularity is based on theorizing, as was LOST’s.They also know that if they lie and purposely mislead us with blatant lies, we will lose interest in theorizing because we won’t be able to trust them.
They’re not stupid.
@Josephine wrote:
Oh, that definitely wasn’t their first time together in that hotel room. I’m not even sure that was where Henry was conceived. The purpose of the hotel scene was to show us their willingness to settle down and start a new life together…a counterpoint to what really happened. It emphasized that their dreams never did come true and fate often has its own plans. 🙁
Exactly I think we just got flashes of their relationship. One of the things I wish they had included was the scene that Neal talked about with August…where they promised they would take care of each other. Neal is so raw in when he tells August that…it gets me everytime.
It would have been nice to see that scene, for sure, but I don’t think it was necessary. Like you said, he’s so raw when he says it, I think it really drove home how much they meant to one another and that they honestly did promise to take care of each other. It was these two against the world. That’s what made it so heartbreaking for me.
That whole bit where Neal is like “2 years?! Where were you the rest of her life!?” You can just see it in his face and hear it in his voice how much he loves Emma and how pissed off he is on her behalf that she’s been alone until he entered her life. Love it.
MRJ is pretty awesome in that scene…in the whole episode actually but that scene is what really stands out to me (dramatically at least…I loved his more humorous moments just as much)…I loved his defensive almost jealous tone when August first mentions Emma and he says How do you know Emma…If August hadn’t answered right I almost think he would have gotten slugged imo. And the expressions he had when August first started talking to him about Emma and the curse after he had seen into that box…he didn’t have to say a word…it looked like his heart was being ripped out right there.
If he is Bae. Magic cost him so much. It doesn’t matter good magic or dark magic. Both of them cost him so much. I think too that when he saw the magical object, being or whatever in the box, it was really ripping his heart out again, but for me he his Bae and as Rumple said of Bae he was always the better man and so he choose to let Emma rescue the people, find her family and if he knew that it was his father, trying to clean his mess, because a part of him thinks he is guilty for the curse too and was sad that he was the reason why his father became what he is and his leaving, that caused the curse.
Heros don't get their Happy Ending!
@tiara_rose wrote:
If he is Bae. Magic cost him so much. It doesn’t matter good magic or dark magic. Both of them cost him so much. I think too that when he saw the magical object, being or whatever in the box, it was really ripping his heart out again, but for me he his Bae and as Rumple said of Bae he was always the better man and so he choose to let Emma rescue the people, find her family and if he knew that it was his father, trying to clean his mess, because a part of him thinks he is guilty for the curse too and was sad that he was the reason why his father became what he is and his leaving, that caused the curse.
Exactly…He had been with Emma and knew her pain…that was evident when August said he had been looking for her the last two years and Neal snapped back and said “…Two years…where were you the rest of her life”. I got the feeling that she had shared a lot of her pain with him…told him things she had told no one else…and then he finds out that all her pain…everything she had gone through…growing up without her parents was all because of him (if he is Bae…and I think he is).
Talk about being devastated. This was the one person he wanted to take care of…to make sure never got hurt again…and not only (in his mind) is he responsible for her pain…what he’s got to do next (have her arrested) to give her back everything she lost (her parents) is going to cause her even more pain…he can’t win. I’ve said this before and I’ll probably say it again…I think Nealfire’s story is the most tragic story on the show. Every time he tries to do the right thing, nothing but heartache and disappointment come his way.
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