What is motivating Evil Queen?

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I lost my post, so hopeful this makes sense 🙂

One thing that has been lost in all the action of this episode is that Regina put her finger on what is wrong with Evil Queen, and what is motivating her.

Is it not a simple lust for power, or revenge.

It is that she has a hole in her heart and she doesn’t know how to deal with it.

Regina has spent 30+ dealing with hole in her heart/void in her soul. Some might say that Henry cured/fixed it, but I think that is entirely the wrong take-away. Even in season 1 it was clear that the holes were still healing (and probably still aren’t fully healed, it will always be with her). But she made a series of decisions that helped her to where she is now. She thought becoming a parent would do it, and then realized she had to become a better person to be the parent her child deserved. After Emma came, and the curse was broken, and all the tonnes of other development Regina has pushed through in the last six seasons… While she got help and support, she could have turned it away, or gone in a different direction. And I think there is probably still a hole in Regina’s heart, but she has tended her broken heart, instead of doing things that don’t help.

I really like what this could mean for the story. First of all, it is one of the few times (besides showing horrible parents in this show) that it means that parenthood isn’t automatically redemptive. Sure, people can decide to become better persons. Sometimes it is even motivated by parenthood.  But not always. It doesn’t have to be. It isn’t automated. (I just wished they showed more of Zelena’s process instead of hand-waving it).

What does this mean for EQ though? Perhaps being one half (or the worst half) of a person, she is incapable of being introspective enough to figure it out, especially by herself. But EQ is trying to fill a hole in her heart using the same methods Regina did. Is that suppose to work? Maybe EQ has some master plan now, but even if she does, I doubt it will fill the void.

EQ has already gotten her revenge on the Charmings, for the foreseeable future, just like Regina had when the curse was enacted the first time. EQ is already a mother, but parenthood doesn’t automatically make you whole.

(Heck, if for some reason EQ and Regina could not remerge, I am sure if EQ gave up her revenge and started making decisions to be a better person the Charmings, and eventually Storybrooke, would accept her too. 😀 Then Henry would have three mothers 😉 )

I think the only way for EQ to fill this void is to re-merge with Regina. I guess the only question is if the void is from Daniel (or other long-lost loved ones) or perhaps a void that Regina think she has addressed, but hasn’t fully: Robin.

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A few weeks ago,  I posted a theory that EQ wants Robin back.

She at least wants someone to love her the way she is.

I also mentioned a few weeks ago that she could be fighting to exist independent of Hero! Regina.

And I think she enjoys being free of Hero Regina. She can’t stand her.

She is also drunk on power, so being Queen without having to share or hand over her power could be a factor.

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 (Heck, if for some reason EQ and Regina could not remerge, I am sure if EQ gave up her revenge and started making decisions to be a better person the Charmings, and eventually Storybrooke, would accept her too. Then Henry would have three mothers )Quote

Oh Holy I hope not…. That would be too repetitive. I will hold my money on a remerging. Its the only thing that works, in my opinion. If we want Regina to survive that is, and I definitely doo.

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She at least wants someone to love her the way she is.

I also mentioned a few weeks ago that she could be fighting to exist independent of Hero! Regina.

The part about fighting to exist independent of Regina, is something I have wished for them to put more emphasis on from the beginning of this storyline. They still might use that in the end and I DOO think this already IS part of her motivation, but they should have pointed to it more in dialogue and in the writing in general, in my opinion. This is a very solid reason and motivation for Evil Queen. Like Ive talked about on here before- She is not a real person yet, as long as she has those ties to Regina that prevents her from dying unless Regina dies, she will only be Regina’s “shadow” (talking Jung psychology here -*brushes of my imaginary professor hat)

There is a fairytale by Hans Christian Andersen called “The Shadow” which is about a Man who become separated from his shadow. And after long years of failed attempts by the Shadow to persuade the Man to become its shadow, the story ends with the shadow killing the Man in order to become the Real One.

Evil Queen wants love. I didn’t think so in the beginning of the season, but we have seen she wants Henry’s acceptance and she wants to “own him” which was also Regina’s understanding of how to love someone in season 1. She has, all predatory like,, gone after Rumple to get his “love” she has used different words, because I believe she doesn’t understand that it is love that she needs, so she says she wants him on “her team” She wants Zelena on her team too, but is so screwed up in her mind that she falls for Rumple’s schemes to get her to choose him over her sister, because Evil Queen thinks she needs power more then she needs love- this is also an effect of her not knowing what love is -The strongest magic as we all know.

The revenge on Snow was always Regina projecting her pain and anger to something she could understand. That is why it gives her no form of satisfaction. But it was what motivated her. Perhaps revenge as a motivation is now gone, or perhaps she is now going to direct it elsewhere —say Emma!

Going forward Evil Queens other motivations are presumable still- Trying to become Real. Trying to get her son Henry to be hers. Trying to fill the hole inside her, which is what she needs love for, but this is not understandable for her, she is incapable of getting this.. Regina did, but it took her years and that understanding must have left Evil Queen when Regina left.

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And I think she enjoys being free of Hero Regina. She can’t stand her.

I think she probably sees Regina as as sanctimonious as she finds the Charmings at this point. As much as Regina became the evil Queen because she was in pain over Daniel, she ended up hating her younger self for being so good and weak (synonyms in her p.o.v. probably), as love was a weakness.

Oh Holy I hope not…. That would be too repetitive. I will hold my money on a remerging. Its the only thing that works, in my opinion. If we want Regina to survive that is, and I definitely doo.

I just like chuckling at the idea, I don’t actually want it to take up air time 😀 It would be funny and charming for a brief moment 😉

The revenge on Snow was always Regina projecting her pain and anger to something she could understand. That is why it gives her no form of satisfaction. But it was what motivated her. Perhaps revenge as a motivation is now gone, or perhaps she is now going to direct it elsewhere —say Emma! Going forward Evil Queens other motivations are presumable still- Trying to become Real. Trying to get her son Henry to be hers. Trying to fill the hole inside her, which is what she needs love for, but this is not understandable for her, she is incapable of getting this.. Regina did, but it took her years and that understanding must have left Evil Queen when Regina left.

This makes sense to me. So EQ thinks she got what she wanted with Snowing, but after that was going after Rumple, willing to kill her sister… She is going to have to direct or channel that pain-filled hole somewhere/somehow. Does she have enough smarts to do so in a way to benefit her, even to her definition of benefit? Because having affairs with Rumple and alienating your sister and son, really don’t do much. And she hasn’t really solidified power and/or seemingly worked on getting independent of Regina, at not on screen.

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If you are into spoilers, the sneak peek for ep 10 might help to answer you question 🙂

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If you are into spoilers, the sneak peek for ep 10 might help to answer you question

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