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February 27, 2013 at 9:16 pm #136128magicalmeParticipant
Ok, back to basics here for me and I need help. I thought the Evil Queen/Regina cast the curse to take away everyone’s happy endings? Yet during this episode and what was replayed during the podcast, she says the curse isn’t about memories, it’s about magic. Was Snow White and Charming’s happy ending magic? What am I not understanding?
[adrotate group="5"]February 27, 2013 at 9:32 pm #175806tiara_roseParticipantI think she said that if she leave Storybrook she would not lose her memories, because she was not cursed at all, neither was Cora or Hook, The only thing they would lose leaving Storybrook is their magic. Magic is only in Storybrook because Rumple brought it and this is also the reason that nobody can leave altough the curse is broken. Everything has a price and that is the prize for magic in Storybrook. In the land without magic, there is no magic at all, but as we could see you can bring magical things to the land without magic, like the scarf. The outside is like Storybrook before the curse broke, because Regina could’t use magic in the old way, but sacriface something to get something other magical to work again (Daniels ring for the head to bring back the apple)
Heros don't get their Happy Ending!
February 27, 2013 at 9:33 pm #175807PriceofMagicParticipantI thought Regina was talking about the town line. Because neither she, Cora or Hook were affected by the curse, they could cross the town line without losing their memories. However, if Regina or Cora crossed the line, they would lose their magic. To which Hook replied “I don’t need magic”. Hook wants to go after Rumple whilst he’s out of Storybrooke because Rumple wouldn’t have any magic so can be killed (At least that’s Hook’s line of thinking).
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixFebruary 27, 2013 at 9:49 pm #175810schmackyParticipantTo answer the actual question of the thread, the reason Regina cast the curse was so that she could get Snow White in another land as there was a protection spell on her and David where she couldn’t do anything to them in their land.
February 27, 2013 at 11:05 pm #175820raulybarraParticipantMagicalMe, you are correct with respect to the original curse. It was all about Regina’s revenge. Remember, that curse has been broken but with a price. The price was that they have their Enchanted Forest personalities back, but only within the bounds of Storybrooke. If they leave they revert to their cursed selves, seemingly permanently. However, if you never had a cursed personality you are free to leave town safely. Regina never forgot who she was and that obviously applies to Cora and Hook, as well.
Rumpel brought magic into our world through the Wishing Well — returning something that was “lost.” However its effects are apparently limited to the town limits, as well. I say “apparently” because Rumpel’s talisman is working in the rest of the world, unless it was only really needed in the crossing of the line. We also have no idea about the extent or scope of Emma’s powers, either.
Now how the two – the new curse and the limit for magic – interact is another question entirely. Is there a relationship or interaction between the two? Or is it just coincidence that they both are restricted by the town’s boundary? I haven’t given that much thought, but I do know that there are very few coincidences in this show.
February 27, 2013 at 11:09 pm #175821schmackyParticipantRemember, that curse has been broken but with a price. The price was that they have their Enchanted Forest personalities back, but only within the bounds of Storybrooke.
That’s not necessarily true. Magic was brought back immediately after the curse was broken so we don’t know if they would have been able to leave Storybrooke with their memories or not if magic never returned.
That’s a crappy curse breaking if you get your memories back but are stuck in a small town. I think it makes more sense if the price of bringing back magic is losing one’s memories.
February 28, 2013 at 12:25 am #175833raulybarraParticipant@Schmacky wrote:
That’s not necessarily true. Magic was brought back immediately after the curse was broken so we don’t know if they would have been able to leave Storybrooke with their memories or not if magic never returned.
That’s a crappy curse breaking if you get your memories back but are stuck in a small town. I think it makes more sense if the price of bringing back magic is losing one’s memories.
Truth be told, we’re not really told which is the case. And yes, I agree, it’s a pretty crappy situation if the breaking of the curse still left them trapped in Storybrooke. However, I think that is still what has happened. I think it connects to Storybrooke being something of a transplant from the Enchanted Forest, perhaps even being connected to why they didn’t go back when the curse was broken. We have been given a reason for that, at least; there is “nothing” to go back to. Of course, we do know that this isn’t entirely true. Also that those who never had a “curse memory” are immune to the effect seems to tie the memory loss to the original curse, as well.
Though they did happen near each other, bringing magic to Storybrooke was still a separate event with separate a separate price, IMHO. In this case, the price being magic’s restriction to only the town. Of course, from a storytelling perspective I could see why the writers could almost consider that a necessity. Rampant magic everywhere in our Land? That could get snarly…
Keep in mind, though, I certainly keep the possibility open that even though they are two distinct events, there’s no telling what could happen as the two interact. And of course, I could just be dead wrong. 😀 It certainly wouldn’t be the fist time with this show.
Thinking about it, this would be a wonderful question to ask for the Official OUAT podcast…
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