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I’m just thinking about the fact that The Charming’s tried to destroy Mal’s ashes. So they have
1. Place a foreign object inside of her body
2.’Borrowed’ her ‘dragon baby’ to transfer some evil unknowingly sending her to another world with two crazy aunts
3. Tried to REALLY kill her by destroying her ashes
Its so satisfying now to realize their blood is what brought her back to life.
[adrotate group="5"]I’d like to point out a couple of things that would’ve made snowing realize that it was a baby instead of a dragon were they not blinded by stupid mode of parenting. 1) mal said on many occasions that she was going to have a baby, not a dragon 2) eight of their friends/ confidants were hatched from eggs (rip stealthy) 3) mal has the ability to be human or dragon. And she stays human a good majority of the time. So 50/50 chance it’d be a baby on that point alone.
In the words of Cruella…. “If only their wits matched their looks.”
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I don’t believe there was any merit in what Snow and Charming did. I do, however, think that Emma overreacted to it. One, everything that Emma has known about the Charmings as heroes has been after this event. This was not something that happened last week and they’ve been hiding it from her. It was something they did “years” ago which caused them great shame and they have recently struggled to come clean with Emma about it. The Charmings distinguished themselves from the villains by showing the capacity to immediately reflect and show regret not because they suffered a negative consequence (Rumple) but because they recognize they did something wrong in itself and harmed another person(s). As much as I’m smitten with Hook, notice that he had no intention of giving Ursula her voice back until he wanted something from her. Given the list of truly evil things Regina, Rumple, and Hook have done, I’m surprised that the Charmings are being given much harsher treatment, both by Emma and “the show” in general.
While Emma has every right to be horrified by their choice, and disappointed with their sneaking around, Snow and Charming have not so much betrayed her as they’ve disappointed her. I think the lesson for Emma in all of this is that no one can live on a pedestal. She has to live in a world where even heroes fall, and she has to be able to trust even knowing that, more likely than not, she will be disappointed at one point or another. I feel like the writers over-rely on Emma’s trust issues/background, so I hope they go more in the direction of Emma learning gradations of trust and character realism rather than this justifying Emma going dark.
I don’t believe there was any merit in what Snow and Charming did. I do, however, think that Emma overreacted to it. One, everything that Emma has known about the Charmings as heroes has been after this event. This was not something that happened last week and they’ve been hiding it from her. It was something they did “years” ago which caused them great shame and they have recently struggled to come clean with Emma about it. The Charmings distinguished themselves from the villains by showing the capacity to immediately reflect and show regret not because they suffered a negative consequence (Rumple) but because they recognize they did something wrong in itself and harmed another person(s). As much as I’m smitten with Hook, notice that he had no intention of giving Ursula her voice back until he wanted something from her. Given the list of truly evil things Regina, Rumple, and Hook have done, I’m surprised that the Charmings are being given much harsher treatment, both by Emma and “the show” in general. While Emma has every right to be horrified by their choice, and disappointed with their sneaking around, Snow and Charming have not so much betrayed her as they’ve disappointed her. I think the lesson for Emma in all of this is that no one can live on a pedestal. She has to live in a world where even heroes fall, and she has to be able to trust even knowing that, more likely than not, she will be disappointed at one point or another. I feel like the writers over-rely on Emma’s trust issues/background, so I hope they go more in the direction of Emma learning gradations of trust and character realism rather than this justifying Emma going dark.
Totally Agree.
Now excuse me whilst I go crawl into a ball with my shock blankets in the sad tent and sob. #Hello Darkness my Old Friend.
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Despite the apprentice appearing to cast Emma’s potential for darkness into baby Lily, the Chernabog still went after Emma in 4×12. So that must mean either (1) the apprentice didn’t really drive out Emma’s potential for darkness after all or (2) despite the darkness being driven from her heart as an unborn baby, Emma nevertheless still developed the potential for darkness again while growing up as an orphan.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
(2) despite the darkness being driven from her heart as an unborn baby, Emma nevertheless still developed the potential for darkness again while growing up as an orphan.
Which is pretty much what the Apprentice said: that we are all born a blank slate. I think he really just did a showy trick to get Snowing to calm down but in reality nothing happened.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Another possibility:
(3) The babies were switched. (It would sort of parallel David and James.)
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Possibility 4, and where I think they’re going with it:
Rumple’s got a plan to turn her heart dark–but he has to do something to make it possible. The potential was there, but the sorcerer did remove the chance of it spawning on its own.
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I’m not sure how upset I can be with Snow’s decision to swap the babies’s goodness/evilness, especially if her choice was somehow influenced by the Author’s manipulations.
I think, the only part I’m upset with is Charming’s little pep talk in the nursery. That he and Snow can somehow atone for what they did and brush it away like it never happened by trying to be good and pure from now on.
Given the list of truly evil things Regina, Rumple, and Hook have done, I’m surprised that the Charmings are being given much harsher treatment, both by Emma and “the show” in general.
I agree to an extent. 1. I think the show started treating Rumple harshly from about 3B onwards ie losing his son to death then making him go full villain in 4A and continuing that in 4B whilst Hook and Regina received their free passes to redemption. 2. The idea that Snowing were just going to take another persons offspring, offload their child’s darkness into said offspring and then just hand the offspring back is kind of horrifying all on it’s own. Snowing’s complete disregard for Mal’s offspring just because it might not be human is also cruel. It seems out of character that Season 1 Snowing would consciously do something that terrible for their own selfish reasons. Snow from season 3 onwards, you can believe would be that selfish.
It’s not so much that Snowing are being treated “harsher”, I think anyone would be horrified to hear what Snowing did so Emma’s reaction to them is justified, it’s that Regina and Hook are getting away scot-free for their past misdeeds and not being called out on it by anyone which makes it unfair that certain characters have to deal with the consequences of their actions whilst certain others don’t.
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