What was the dream???

[glothr]

The hat room being the nightmare room is a decent theory but a couple things make me believe that it’s not the case. Firstly, Aurora and Henry both described themselves as being in a corner. The room inside the hate looked to be completely circular with no corners. Secondly, they both said they could see the other person through the flames, enough to see their eyes, The hat room is HUGE and unless they were sitting fairly close to each other they wouldn’t be able to see the other person’s eyes very easily.

One thing I haven’t seen brought up is what Regina tells Snow about what the sleeping curse does to a person. I found a good YouTube video of the scene (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4DYyzJBmWg) and I’ll type it up here:

Regina: It won’t kill you. No, what it will do is far worse. Your body will be your tomb. And you’ll be in there with nothing but dreams formed of your own regrets.

What that means or if it even applies to the room in question remains to be seen. But I think this could provide some insight.

[tiara_rose]

I searched me crazy for a fairy tale with a red room or curtains in flames, but I didn’t find something like that, but I find a short story from H.G. Wells “The red room” and as we know the producer take also ideas from books.
The description from Wikipedia for the RED ROOM OF H.G. WELLS :

The story centers around an unnamed protagonist who chooses to spend the night in the remote Lorraine Castle. The narrator intends to rest in a room said to be haunted, in an effort to disprove the various legends surrounding it and to follow in the footsteps of the old earl. Despite ominously vague warnings from the three infirm custodians who reside there (“this night of all nights!”), the narrator ascends to the “Red Room” to begin his night’s vigil.
Initially confident, the narrator begins to feel uneasy once in the room, and attempts to conquer his fear by lighting every corner of the room with candles. He then fights a losing battle to keep the candles lit in the drafty room; every time a candle goes out, the narrator’s fear is increased, as he begins to wonder if the drafts are being guided by a malevolent intelligence. Eventually, the narrator’s fear reaches a crescendo, and he is forced to flee from the room in a blind panic.
The caretakers initially feel vindicated when the narrator reveals to them that the room is in fact haunted, and are eager to hear a description of the phantom they assume the narrator has encountered. However, he surprises them by explaining that there is no ghost residing in the room; rather, the room is haunted by fear itself.

So in this story the person is haunted by the fear itself and the only thing he have to fight the fear is a candle.(Prince Charming lit a candle for Henry and Snow White)

Maliciefent use the sleeping curse, but maybe she is not the creator, like the queen. Regina use the curse, but Rumplestiltskin creates it,
There is also a spindle by the sleeping beauty, that would give us a hint to Rumple. If the dreams can conact with our world. The sleeping curse was maybe the first try from Rumple to get to our world, but it didn’t work. Only his mind could reach Baelfire. It wasn’t strong enough to go through.

Regina and Rumplestiltskin refers to Malicefent as a old friend. Was she maybe one of Rumple “Students”? Once she said to Regina that there are limits, that nobody should pass.
Yes, she didn’t know that the creator was Rumple, but why should Rumple tell her. She wouldn’t use the curse, because she had Moral left and Rumple is not for gossip.

With this in mind, I can imagine why Neal Cassidy wanted to keep the dream catcher (I think he is Bea). He was haunted by the dreams himself and wanted them to stop.

And there is another hint that it could be Rumple. He was long ago in a castle that was burning down to get the dagger of the Dark One.

Heros don't get their Happy Ending!

[Killian Jones]

@Glothr wrote:

The hat room being the nightmare room is a decent theory but a couple things make me believe that it’s not the case. Firstly, Aurora and Henry both described themselves as being in a corner. The room inside the hate looked to be completely circular with no corners. Secondly, they both said they could see the other person through the flames, enough to see their eyes, The hat room is HUGE and unless they were sitting fairly close to each other they wouldn’t be able to see the other person’s eyes very easily.

One thing I haven’t seen brought up is what Regina tells Snow about what the sleeping curse does to a person. I found a good YouTube video of the scene (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4DYyzJBmWg) and I’ll type it up here:

Regina: It won’t kill you. No, what it will do is far worse. Your body will be your tomb. And you’ll be in there with nothing but dreams formed of your own regrets.

What that means or if it even applies to the room in question remains to be seen. But I think this could provide some insight.

I know there’s a lot of pieces to fill in but the curtains and the link between worlds makes me think the rooms are connected. Maybe the room in that dream state alters your perception? I mean in the dream both Henry and Aurora are terrified yet they both are the antagonizes of each other’s nightmare? I think Snow had a similar nightmare too so if she did it could be that the sleeping curse sends your mind to this sort of limbo between worlds? I don’t have it all worked out but I really think these pieces fit together some how.

[clockwatcher]

I hate to interrupt this intense and unbelievably factual thread, but…

LOL What one of the walls is just a mirror and they’re looking at their own reflections! 😆

[sarah-daye hand]

@tiara_rose wrote:

There is also a spindle by the sleeping beauty, that would give us a hint to Rumple.

I think the spindle was in reference to the disney version where she pricker her finger…

[Killian Jones]

@Clockwatcher wrote:

I hate to interrupt this intense and unbelievably factual thread, but…

LOL What one of the walls is just a mirror and they’re looking at their own reflections! 😆

So Aurora thinks she’s a guy and Henry thinks he’s a girl? 😯

[clockwatcher]

@steliokontos1 wrote:

@Clockwatcher wrote:

I hate to interrupt this intense and unbelievably factual thread, but…

LOL What one of the walls is just a mirror and they’re looking at their own reflections! 😆

So Aurora thinks she’s a guy and Henry thinks he’s a girl? 😯

Right… well… *walks into a hole*
*dies*
😳

[TheGoldenKey]

@Phee wrote:

@TheGoldenKey wrote:

I believe we just saw how David will communicate with Snow in the other realm. Telepathic messages via Henry and his dreams.

Oooo, I like that idea!

Just found this tweet from Jane Espenson where she confirms that the dreams are how David & Snow will communicate. I bet she feeds info to Aurora & David to Henry.

Christina Boulard ‏@ChristinaBWho
@JaneEspenson Are Henry and Aurora dreaming of each other? And if so, can this be used as a way for Snow and Charming to communicate?? #OUAT
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4 Nov Jane Espenson ‏@JaneEspenson
@ChristinaBWho You are so clever!
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[tyler]

I’m starting to think that the room that they are in is just another world. I think that every time you sleep and dream, you go to this world, and by creating a sleeping curse, you are effectively being held prisoner in this world and not allowed to leave. Thus, they are in a prison in the dream world, and because the effects of the curse are still lingering after its been broken, they still find themselves prisoner every time they sleep

[clockwatcher]

@Lem James wrote:

The red room in Henry and Aurora’s dream seems descriptive of a royal courtroom, and the color “Red” sounds a tiny bit descriptive of the Queen of hearts. Of course there was a “he” AND a she seen in this dream. Could the Sandman (a mythical character who sprinkles dust in the eyes of children to give them “good” dreams) be involved? Or Morpheus (the god of sleep)? Maybe not, since I doubt gods fit into this fairy tale universe. But when was the last we seen the Queen of hearts anyway? I’m wondering if she might return as a big time villain.

I really like the idea of the Queen of Hearts (and I’m assuming now that she’s Cora) being involved in this somehow. She’s become a major character on the show, and as far as we’re seeing, most evil things tend to lead back to her. (Well, OR Rumple)
Plus, we know that there's an upcoming episode about the Queen of Hearts.

As for gods becoming involved… I don’t think it’s TOO out of reach. It may be a bit unlikely NOW, but who knows what they’ll bring in? 🙂
In the “Doors Lead to FTL” thread, we theorized A LOT about some of the different worlds, and gods definitely came up. I forget which ones, but they’re in that thread. 😀

Really, I feel like the writers have opened up the possibilities for, well, anyone who isn’t “real” to appear. They clearly stated that we’d be seeing “story book” characters, and… there are LOTS of story books.
I also like someone’s theory (I forget who) that each book that’s written created a new world. Kind of like in Inkheart, if anyone’s read that. It may not be plausible, but… it’s interesting. 🙂

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