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September 23, 2014 at 9:04 am #283079
Keb
ParticipantWell, there’s a lot of rabid love for Regina, who killed her own parents, and her husband, and tried multiple times to kill one of her (step)children…
Along with entire villages along the way. And random guards. And her boyfriend/sex slave.
If people can find her a sympathetic character (ditto Rumple), I should think that, given a good storyline and character depth, we could still love a truly villainous princess.
I’m not sure it could happen for a “family audience” though. Elsa may be the closest we can get if it’s at all deemed “for children.” (I would argue that Disney animation is NOT just for kids in any way, but since that is a major part of the audience that they have to consider, along with parents who will freak out over every little thing…it’s a relevant consideration.)
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September 23, 2014 at 9:09 am #283080WickedRegal
ParticipantI agree with Myril. If I were to do it, the princess wouldn’t be misunderstood, or evil because pf something someone did to her. She would be the way she is because its her doing. She likes being wicked. She likes causing pain and turmoil for others. I would even go so far to say that she doesn’t even powers or magic so that her evil is more human and understandable. I’d start out with a traditional Disney villain type. This princess probably usurped the throne, or just made herself a princess where their previously was no princess like what Maleficent did. She’d cause bad things for everyone under her dominion and along the way she actually begins to feel remorseful for what she has done. Perhaps the movie would be her journey to making amends for the wrong she has done. The people wouldn’t be so willing to accept her. But she tries and tries to male up for her evil, owning up to it, facing it, and taking the consequences. There is a lot that can be done with this. The only problem is that the princess can’t be TOO evil. We have to see something redeemable in her in order to ‘like her, so she can’t kill her parents for the throne, or ya know, murder someone outright.
Oh….okk….so no true love, but someone just right off the top wicked with no sob story. That’s easy to think of….let their parents be evil people, aka, the real baddies of the film….and then just let being raised by wicked parents rub wickedness off on her. That way she gets it honestly, because she was raised to be bad….nine times out of ten, she’s going to have some form of magic or power, ala, a Disney trademark.
Perhaps it wouldn’t be through true love, she finds redemption from through the means of her best friend, who throughout the course of the film will start out as her mortal enemy because they come from two different upbringings, one is good, the other is wicked. But eventually they turn into very close best friends, and learn they’re the two sides of the same coin, and learn from one another, changing each other for the better. That would be a new Disney Twist where it involves absolutely no prince charming or princess to fall in love, and blah, blah, blah….
Hint, Hint…. a different version of Wicked.
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September 23, 2014 at 9:17 am #283081Keb
ParticipantHm, makes me think of Sofia the First actually. Sofia makes friends with a little witch in one episode; in another episode, it’s revealed that her mother is an unapologetic witch who really likes hexing people, and that’s where Lucinda got it from. Mind you, her “evilness” is basically bullying and tricking people in mean ways; she’s a little kid, after all.
But, inspired by Sofia of course, she decides she’d prefer to have friends, so she tries to be a good little witch.
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September 23, 2014 at 12:45 pm #283089TheWatcher
ParticipantPerhaps it wouldn’t be through true love, she finds redemption from through the means of her best friend, who throughout the course of the film will start out as her mortal enemy because they come from two different upbringings, one is good, the other is wicked. But eventually they turn into very close best friends, and learn they’re the two sides of the same coin, and learn from one another, changing each other for the better. That would be a new Disney Twist where it involves absolutely no prince charming or princess to fall in love, and blah, blah, blah….
THIS. ALL OF IT! NOW!
I was thinking more on the princess who isnt traditionally beautiful…. When it comes to Fiona, the thing is even though she is green..and an ogre. She’s still rather pretty. Gorgeous actually. But do you think kids would relate to a character who looked like this:
Kidding. But not really
u get the point. I can name a few less than attractive characters, but those are usually targeted more at males. Do you guys think young girls would be interested in this kind of princess, or would want to dress up as a princess who didnt have the long flowy hair or the sparkles, etc? Just food for thought. Maybe thats why we have never had an unnattractive princess. Ever.
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