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Who did she murder?
hmmmm….maybe she didn’t murder anyone…. Gideon was nowhere to be seen…. Maybe Rump casted it….
I was sorta under the impression that the show was trying to say that she didn’t need to murder anyone because of the amount of dark fairy dust? Which, yeah, doesn’t make any sense at all.
Magic always comes with a price…unless it doesn’t fit with whatever A&E want to do.
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I am in complete agreement about the consternation regarding a lack of discernible motive on the Black Fairy’s part. Even Rumple as a Dark One always had a specific motive. He didn’t just do evil just for the heck of it.
And this is a Final Battle that is “final” because? What are the stakes? Emma wasn’t ever presented as the embodiment of light magic, so why should her possible demise be the “final” anything? And in the scale of evil that we’ve seen throughout OUAT, the Black Fairy is kind of middling at best. I mean, Regina was right to dismiss her as not even reaching the EQ’s level. And Zelena is even more powerful. It makes no sense, and the BF is one of the weakest–if not the weakest–villains we’ve seen on the show. Ironically, Pan was much more formidable.
Is it uncharitable to say that the podcast is really what keeps me watching? Because the writing has become increasingly careless on the macro story level–it’s almost as if ABC is using OUAT to train new writers. Bothers me as one who has watched from the first season.
/rantoff
the final battle also makes no sense when u think about the fact that Black Fairy was detined to kill Rump, who was a savior, not Emma.
So what even connects these two people? What makes her destined to fight emma? Shes literally just another bad guy in town.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICEvery time I see this thread title I just want to respond with “Somewhere horrible” – which probably isn’t our desired location!
I too am confused about what the final battle is actually supposed to be, and also why the Black Fairy wants to start it – beyond thinking that by getting rid of the light she can live in peace with her family.
Also – why have they not sucked Fiona into the Sorcerer’s hat? Or Pandora’s box? Or have these all conveniently vanished?
Yeah Fiona is reunited with Rumpel. And he’s not the savior anymore. So…. why is she doing all this? Just…go live, sis. You got ur son, ur grandkids, ur daughter in law, u got ur powers and there’s nothing to stop you if u don’t give them a reason to.
Just go live girl.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICthe final battle also makes no sense when u think about the fact that Black Fairy was detined to kill Rump, who was a savior, not Emma.
So what even connects these two people? What makes her destined to fight emma? Shes literally just another bad guy in town.
That’s because she is exactly like all the villains who appeared on the show, the only thing that makes her “special” is that she happens to be the final villain to be featured in the final arc (or at least Emma’s final arc).
I don’t think that anyone believes that when Rumple said “final battle” in the pilot, they had the black fairy in mind, like I said she just hapoens to be the final villain. I don’t even think that A&E would have done something with it if fans hadn’t asked them about it."All your questions are pointless"
Every time I see this thread title I just want to respond with “Somewhere horrible” – which probably isn’t our desired location!
Fun fact: I actually added that in parenthesis originally in the title before changing my mind!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Every time I see this thread title I just want to respond with “Somewhere horrible” – which probably isn’t our desired location!
I had the same thought! #Pilot lol
Why does she need to kill anyone? The prophesy was about Rumple being a savior and being killed by the crescent moon evil person to save the children. The prophesy ended when she cut Rumple’s fate so why does she need to fight any savior? Like I said her motivations are completely squirly and make no sense.
also @Rumplesgirl
The Black Fairy wants to kill to protect her family. In her conversation with Rumple, she said that her family (and implied all the future generations to come) are fated to become villains no matter how hard they try not to be, they are fated to suffer, because that’ the way the story goes. So by getting rid of those whom fate designated as ”saviours” or the ”good guys” then the removal of a nemesis means that she and her family and their future generations will no longer be designated as villains no matter how good they are. Instead, her family can stay together and can have a chance at happy endings through their good deeds, rather suffering anyway (and becoming villains) despite their good deeds.
Meanwhile, just because she prevented Rumple from killing her (so that her family doesn’t need to be divided), doesn’t mean that another saviour won’t appear. If fate has designated her and her family as villians, then to have a story there most also be ”heroes”/saviours. The Black Fairy knew this and just assumed their would be another saviour to replace Rumple at some point.
(I also think she created the dark curse to lure out the saviour to kill her and protect her family).
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To answer the question in the OP, it seems that they all are going back to the Enchanted Forest so that they are separate from Emma and Henry (because he is not from EF). They are probably in the hat to look for a way back to our world . (And if there is a way in that direction via the hat then why did Rumple want Regina to cast the curse?? And anyway, I thought the hat was destroyed in season 2 or something???).
I can think of three possible reasons why the Black Fairy might separate Emma and her family even though being with them just spiritually seems to strengthen her.
1) It could be that Emma needs to remember them or at least believe in them and in herself for the song in her heart to be awakened. Perhaps part of the BF’s curse is causing Emma to forget who she is and who her family is, or maybe it wipes out the belief in herself and in her family. If the family are physically separate, there would be no means of jogging her memory or having her believe again. After all, why would she believe just Henry? (Assuming that she is not in the story book, or they too are physically separate in SB for a while preventing Henry from showing her the pages with her in it).
2) The song in her heart is not enough to protect her and her family (though it might help enormously). She needs physical help from her family to defeat the Black Fairy.
3) Before Emma revealed the song in her heart, the BF had already cast the curse and had set a timer on it, and maybe the timer is irreversible.
Keeper of Regina's bravery
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