Where do you think "Skin Deep" fits in the timeline?

[hjbau]

One of the writers did a tweet chat during the episode and i read it afterwards and she said this:

Jane Espenson: There have been many Ogreswar. Rumple was in one centuries ago, but it breaks out again, over and over.

Here is a link to the tweet chat. http://blogcritics.org/video/article/once-upon-a-times-jane-espenson/

[obisgirl]

Ah-ha! That’s what I thought.

[riddleraven]

I thought of a few other things in the live chat just now.

Some points to think about:

#1) This is definitely BEFORE Regina tries out the curse for the first time, because Rumple isn’t imprisoned yet for her to have to visit him there.

#2) Belle is about same age as Snow so this didn’t happen before Snow was born. It had to happen at some point when Snow was this age. Now, remember the episode where Snow meets Rumple? Rumple talks about love being a disease and her wanting to forget (although he obviously chooses not to himself) and we all thought he was referencing his wife but he had to be referencing Belle! That helps a lot with the timeline if I’m right.

#3) Regina talks about true love’s kiss breaking any curse. So could it be that she knows that from experience with Snow? Maybe. Or maybe not because Snow eats the apple AFTER she takes Rumple’s potion, which, like I said, I think is AFTER he met and lost Belle.

#4) Also, I think it’s interesting to note that the EQ is concerned with a mermaid rather than Snow White OR the curse because she eventually becomes obsessed with those things but she didn’t seem to be in this episode. (Unless Ariel is part of her quest. But all she said was that the mermaid was being annoying somehow…)

[obisgirl]

@Riddleraven wrote:

Now, remember the episode where Snow meets Rumple? Rumple talks about love being a disease and her wanting to forget (although he obviously chooses not to himself) and we all thought he was referencing his wife but he had to be referencing Belle! That helps a lot with the timeline if I’m right.

I’ve always thought that Rumple gave his hate speech against love to Snow White in 7:15 a.m., that he had to be talking about Belle.

Also, I got the impression when Belle told Rumple that he found children’s clothes in the attic, that it had been several decades since he first became the Dark One. Also, Jane Espenson said that there wasn’t just one Ogre war. There’s been lots, since they also seem to be repeating themselves. And Rumple was in the FIRST Ogre war. So, either Baelfire ran away or simply died of old age. And Rumple kept his clothes as a way to remember him.

@Riddleraven wrote:

#4) Also, I think it’s interesting to note that the EQ is concerned with a mermaid rather than Snow White OR the curse because she eventually becomes obsessed with those things but she didn’t seem to be in this episode. (Unless Ariel is part of her quest. But all she said was that the mermaid was being annoying somehow…)

Actually, I think we will see the infamous mermaid in the next episode with Prince Charming, which if you've read the description, puts this episode very close to the cancellation of Charming's wedding.

[hjbau]

I am pretty sure there isn’t going to be a mermaid in the next episode. I think we might not see her until next season. They just don’t have enough episodes left, in my opinion, to introduce the Little Mermaid, but who knows.

[obisgirl]

This is really isn’t spoilerish anymore but since Belle appeared in Dreamy, I’d say Belle’s story happened a year before the curse.

[hjbau]

Well. Dreamy was before Snow met Grumpy, so i would say it has to be at least two years Before Curse.

[PriceofMagic]

It’s difficult to tell. Skin Deep could take place at the same time as events in another episode take place or even during the events of another episode. For example, Dreamy starts off then skips to one year later. Skin Deep could take place within that year’s jump.

Some things are certain:

It takes place after Stable boy but before 7 15am.

It takes place before the bar scene in Dreamy.

Other things to consider:

Regina is riding through the forest in her carriage. In True North she did the same thing and told Hansel and Gretal it was “her” forest.

I think it is after Regina has killed Snow’s father and forced Snow into hiding.

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