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Where does Lewis Carroll come in?

Home › Forums › Wonderland › Episode discussion › WL 1×13 “And They Lived …” › Where does Lewis Carroll come in?

  • This topic has 5 replies, 5 voices, and was last updated 11 years, 3 months ago by RumplesGirl.
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  • April 4, 2014 at 9:32 am #259014
    RumplesGirl
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    A few people were discussing this last night in chat and then I saw a mention of it. This bugs me: Lewis Carroll wrote Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass; the Alice in his book was a real girl who (I believe) lived next door to him.

    So where does Lewis Carroll come into place in OnceWonderland? Is he from Fictional England too? Does he live next to Alice and Cyrus?

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    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    April 4, 2014 at 9:54 am #259019
    TheWatcher
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    He could be the one who publishes the book. Lewis Carrol could be Cyrus who had to take on a new identity in our land. Or it could be Alice’s daughtr’s future husband who liked her stories so much that he published them, like in Hook how J.M Barrie liked Wendy’s stories of Peter Pan and got them published without knowing they were true.

    Alternatively, thats a different fictional land. In that land, Alice could have written the stories whereas in our land, Lewis wrote it. I could believe that.

    "I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
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    April 4, 2014 at 9:55 am #259020
    Clessidor
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    Well, I would say Alice is just the author of “Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland” in Fictional Victorian England and Lewis Caroll wrote a book with a very similar title and a similar story in the Land Without Magic and both have nothing to do with each other.
    I still think that the Land Without Magic has a little bit “Magic” and that is the fact that people when they tell each other stries just have forsight about things which will happen in the other lands.

    “There were thousands and thousands of forms of joy in the world, but that all were essentially one and the same, namely, the joy of being able to love.”

    — from the Neverending Story by Michael Ende

    April 4, 2014 at 6:50 pm #259120
    once_dude
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    I don’t think we will ever find out. I like the two theories of publisher or Cyrus’s pseudonym because after all Lewis Carol was a pseudonym for Charles Dodgeson. Ultimately there are so many similar questions from ONce proper that I have started to ignore questions like: Did J.M. Barrie ever meet John and mIchael and get their story about Wendy?

    Magic always comes with a price, so I pay with visa.

    April 4, 2014 at 9:24 pm #259148
    obisgirl
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    Lewis Carroll could be Cyrus who had to take on a new identity in our land. Or it could be Alice’s daughter’s future husband who liked her stories so much that he published them, like in Hook how J.M Barrie liked Wendy’s stories of Peter Pan and got them published without knowing they were true.

    I love both of these theories.

    Lewis Carroll may not exist in Fictional London, but only in our world, which I’m fine with too.

    Found the original tweet btw, asking where Alice fit?

    @ChasingAdvnture FICTIONAL Victorian London. Where chars like Alice live. exists concurrently w/our world so same OUAT timeline remains.

    — Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) June 8, 2013

    April 4, 2014 at 9:32 pm #259150
    RumplesGirl
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    Given that it’s Victorian England and part of Alice’s life when she went back was about being a proper lady, I can imagine her publishing her stories under the same Lewis Carroll since as a woman she wouldn’t be able.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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