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August 5, 2013 at 1:58 am #203140PheeParticipant
That actually really makes sense about Tink and August. Somehow, THO tipped Tamara off to August’s whereabouts in Asia and planned the whole set up. They’d been tracking him somehow because what’s the odds that Tamara would just bump into someone from a magical land and she just happens to be part of a supposed magic-hating mafia. That lead to there had been some kind of trace on August. Who knows how long, but they were playing him big time.
Exactly. Tamara didn’t just accidentally end up clear on the other side of the world in exactly the right place at exactly the right time to dump into August. She didn’t just accidentally leave her bag there on the bar with all the money in it for August to take. Everything was a calculated part of a mission to find and latch onto Nealfire, who was probably a pro at hiding, (we know he had no name on his apartment buzzer, and the only reason Rumple could pinpoint his location was because of their blood tie), so THO needed help tracking him down, and August led them right to him, (I imagine that Neal kept August up to date on his whereabouts through the years, due to their postcard promise). Wouldn’t surprise me if they implanted August with some science-y GPS tracking whatever back when they first discovered him as a kid, which is how they could find him and recruit him to break up SwanFire. There’s no way that August just decided to go and do that all of his own accord.
Sadly, I think we’ll never get the full story behind August. The rumors swirling about Eion Bailey and not getting along with the production crew and the fact that they retconned his character to a little boy appear to me that they don’t want to work with him anymore and that was their way around it.
There have also been quotes from JMo about what a great guy he is to work with though, and in the BTS pics of SB&T he seemed to be hanging out with everyone between takes just fine. I’m inclined to think there was just one person on set who didn’t like him, so they badmouthed him, and the rumour snowballed.
I think it’s more likely that they’d always planned to de-age him, because he knew too much about what had happened to SwanFire, the how and why and who of it all, and if he was still around in adult form, all that information would have been too easily revealed because all they’d have to do was ask him about it, and if he’s being a good boy now, he’d just tell them the truth.
They’d have a complete understanding of why SwanFire had been torn apart, which is no fun because they’d have resolved their issues easier, and they couldn’t drag out the “where do they truly stand with each other” stuff long enough to have the emo upheaval that will be the triangle with Hook. If August explained who had contacted him, told him all about the Curse, and how to break it, and why they’d told him all about it, that would clue the SBers into the existence of someone in the outside world with knowledge of magic and SB, maybe even clued them in to PP controlling things if August had dropped Tink’s name, and then they couldn’t have been able to keep GOAT around as a hidden threat so they could wreak havoc in the finale, and they wouldn’t be headed towards an enemy they’re unprepared to face. By taking away August’s memories, they were able to keep everyone, (characters and audience) in the dark, prolong the mystery, and set up more drama for S3.
I still don’t like that they did it, I still don’t think August really earned his do-over, I still don’t think it’s really fair that Geppetto gets a do-over being a parent to his kid as he grows up…but I can see why they did it to serve the future plot. I just wish there’d been another way to handle it, because there could have been some awesome stuff between August, Emma and Neal if he’d had to truly answer to them, and have them all sort through the mess. Then we could have seen him properly make up for his past actions, apologise, explain. He still could have re-built a real relationship with his father, being supported by his unconditional love and encouragement as he struggled to do the right thing by everyone, take accountability for his actions, and try to salvage his friendships with Emma, Neal, and Henry. The way it happened, August got off too easy.
Last night I re-watched Fruit of the Poisonous Tree, and the scene where Henry is in Granny’s writing out stuff from his lost book, and August is quizzing him about it, it was so weird to see them interact, knowing how things ended up. I mean, yeah, it’s great that Henry has a BFF his own age now, which he’s never had before, but I’d prefer to have Uncle August around instead.
Well the surprising connection spoiled by A and E at SDCC was that it was with someone on the panel, actually sitting at the table, so it can’t be Pinocchio since Eion isn’t a full cast member and wasn’t there.
JMo was there though, and if Tink is the one who told August everything, and gave him orders that would affect Emma’s life, then technically, Tink has a surprising connection to Emma. It also gives her a surprising connection to Neal, because while everyone would assume Tink has a connection with Bae from his time in NL, it would be surprising to see her also have a connection with Neal in our world.
[adrotate group="5"]August 5, 2013 at 8:02 am #203148RumplesGirlKeymasterI agree that the spoiler doesn’t negate the August connection. 303 starts filming this week. That is the first appearance of Violet/Tink so let’s keep an eye out to see if maybe Eion shows up.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 5, 2013 at 12:28 pm #203181kfchimeraParticipantI am not sure they planned to de-age August at the start of the season, but I think Eion had an offer to be the lead in another series, and they reworked a few things to wrap up his character arc. The series fell through though, so Eion is, presumably, still available for them. The writers have not made a big deal about Ashley or Katherine, but have made a point to mention Seb, Jaimie, Meghan and Giancarlo. I am kind of surprised that I haven’t seen that kind of “don’t worry, he’ll be back” talk. So I do doubt the rumors, but at the same time, I’d be more sure that adult August would be back if the writers had as much obvious love for the guy as they’ve displayed for other talent who’ve moved on to other projects.
At to the spoiler:
Even without adult August, I think they could connect Tink to Neal and Emma and involve him in a way. They could show a scene of Tink spying on these two in a bar, and following them as they are getting a little amorous, back to their car. Then we hear a little bell sound, and she then picks up her phone-that-isn’t-just-a-phone and says something, as she looks at a hand drawn picture of August, in the same style as Henry’s picture. Something like that would introduce Tink, set up her personality/role as a minion of the H.O. without needing the actor, then we follow Tink setting up the adoption with Emma in prison, maybe even meeting Mr. Gold to give him baby Henry. .
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
August 5, 2013 at 12:34 pm #203182kfchimeraParticipantI didn’t realize this, so not sure if mentioned in this thread, but apparently,
Adam tweeted a few days ago that August is not the author of the book. I don’t have a twitter account to link /embed it, just web searched it. He tweeted on August 1.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
August 5, 2013 at 12:42 pm #203183PheeParticipantI’m not sure if embedding works when you wanna post more than 2 tweets in a conversation. Let’s see if I can get it all to show properly…
who wrote Henry's book? I know people think August but he went through the portal before Emma, & the book shows a pic of a bloody Charming.
— Kandice (@kandice31) August 2, 2013
@MaanHhhwelll @AdamHorowitzLA yeah but people still say August. I never thought it was actually him.
— Kandice (@kandice31) August 2, 2013
@MaanHhhwelll @kandice31 not August
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) August 2, 2013
August 5, 2013 at 12:56 pm #203187kfchimeraParticipantOoh, thanks Phee. That was the one. I still haven’t made a twitter account so I’m not sure I even can embed it.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
August 5, 2013 at 4:10 pm #203197RumplesGirlKeymasterBrilliant! That’s so great to know. I *still* think it was Blue. We don’t know those final preparations before the curse hit.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 5, 2013 at 4:17 pm #203202PriceofMagicParticipantIs it possible August was just snarking Rumple when he said “a little fairy”? Or that he said “a little fairy” in the same way someone would say “a little bird told me”?
Also if it was indeed a fairy that gave August his information I don’t think it was Blue because at the time of season 1 Blue was really the only fairy the audience were aware of. They could be misleading the audience into thinking it was Blue when in fact it was someone else.
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Keeper of FelixAugust 5, 2013 at 4:27 pm #203204RumplesGirlKeymasterIs it possible August was just snarking Rumple when he said “a little fairy”? Or that he said “a little fairy” in the same way someone would say “a little bird told me”?
Also if it was indeed a fairy that gave August his information I don’t think it was Blue because at the time of season 1 Blue was really the only fairy the audience were aware of. They could be misleading the audience into thinking it was Blue when in fact it was someone else.
I think it’s a 50/50 chance of it being either one of those. August was always kind of snarky so it’s very possible, but he already has connections with fairies, even if it wasn’t Blue who gave him *this* information. They may have left it open so that they could fill it in later, maybe depending on Eion’s schedule and how S2 played out.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 5, 2013 at 6:14 pm #203217kfchimeraParticipantAnd with S2 bringing us [/spoiler] Another little fairy …..[/spoiler] I just thought they might get back to some of the spaces in August’s story.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
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