which characters you hate? (no flaming or bashing allowed)

[PriceofMagic]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

I really like Red but I feel as though she was totally under utilized this season. I don’t think that’s H and K’s fault. They have a lot of characters and I don’t know how much more of Red’s story they thought they could tell. What else is there? Red Handed was a great episode with the shocking twist that she was the wolf, but Child of the Moon was one of my least favorite episodes. It fell flat and was, for me, obvious filler. Since then she’s been around less and less. It’s understandable that Meghan decided to look elsewhere, though again I do not blame H and K. Maybe they had bigger plans for Red but with so much going on, stuff has to fall to the side and I don’t want another Red story just because they feel they HAVE to give her one.

I agree. I do like Red but this season wasn’t kind to her and it’s not necessarily because she’s not been around much, it’s just that when she has been around she’s not had much to do and could’ve not just turned up at all. Belle wasn’t around much in season one but when she did appear, she had an important role within the story.

[RumplesGirl]

@PriceofMagic wrote:

@RumplesGirl wrote:

I really like Red but I feel as though she was totally under utilized this season. I don’t think that’s H and K’s fault. They have a lot of characters and I don’t know how much more of Red’s story they thought they could tell. What else is there? Red Handed was a great episode with the shocking twist that she was the wolf, but Child of the Moon was one of my least favorite episodes. It fell flat and was, for me, obvious filler. Since then she’s been around less and less. It’s understandable that Meghan decided to look elsewhere, though again I do not blame H and K. Maybe they had bigger plans for Red but with so much going on, stuff has to fall to the side and I don’t want another Red story just because they feel they HAVE to give her one.

I agree. I do like Red but this season wasn’t kind to her and it’s not necessarily because she’s not been around much, it’s just that when she has been around she’s not had much to do and could’ve not just turned up at all. Belle wasn’t around much in season one but when she did appear, she had an important role within the story.

Good point. I’ve always thought/wondered if they hadn’t decided to make Rumple the Beast and Belle had just been another character for background like Ella, would she have been around in S2? Or would she have been a one time character? I often wonder how reaction to Skin Deep changed the overall show. Reaction to Rumbelle basically exploded after that episode. It became one of the top ships on the show, rivaling Snowing. I remember being in the chat room the night of the S1 finale and when Jefferson sent Belle after Gold everything exploded; and while there was much cheering when Snowing found each other on the street, when Belle remembered on the way to the well it was even more insane. I think the reaction to Rumbelle was something H and K didn’t expect at all.

So, to bring this back to Ruby, had they not killed off Peter (which would have made Red Handed nowhere near as good) or really tried to pair her with Whale or someone else, maybe she would have been given more screen time. But I hate to think that the only way someone can enter this show and be significant is by being romantically paired with someone. That was one of the major reasons I liked Ruby: she didn’t have a true love, her story/happy ending was about accepting herself, fur and all.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[maryrose d.]

Phillip- he created the whole Aurora/ Mulan love triangle which bores me to death since those two are way better as friends than jealous kids. Also he has done nothing except get sucked by a wraith and kiss a girl in the entire show. I find he just caused massive problems and if he wasn’t so stupid certain problems or issues would have been revolved sooner.

Tamara- until I have a motive besides “I’m evil and don’t like magic” I will never like Tamara. She was a complete turnoff when she was Neal’s fiancée which just killed my heart cause I love SwanFire, but mainly she just seems stupid. Like so stupid that Emma should just ask Gold to turn her into a snail, stupid. And don’t even get me started on her Taser. How does someone who has never got their hands on magic suddenly know how to kill magical creatures? Why was she following August? How did she know if Neal was related to all the magic when she saw him? Why didn’t she just follow August to SB? Where did she meat Greg? This girl has way to many questions.

Owen’s father- if u were a bit more friendly to Regina, than you wouldn’t be captured, Owen wouldn’t be looking for you, and probably no Tamara. So learn better manners and such.

Blue Fairy- she caused all the problems on the show, and the only happy ending she ever has for people is turning them into real boys. all the other characters she has attempted to help, always ending better without her help, and then she says they can only help themselves. she never admitted she caused everything, we still don’t know her backstory, and really hasn’t done anything since magic came to SB

Nova- I don’t have a good reason, just an overall hate for her. mainly she can never do anything right, and has to rely on others to fix her issues and stuff

James and King George- they scream tyranny, and have no love except themselves. also they are both ruthless, don’t care about using people/ killing people, and they are willing to use any means necessary to get what they want.

Keeper of Swanfire's dream catcher, the Blue Fairy Plot Device, the contact name "Her", the lanyards, the trigger, the Netherworld room and necklace, Charming's quote on Thanksgiving, and PP's pic of Henry

[obisgirl]

I thought it was unfair to hate on Tamara after the first time we met her. She had only one scene but I understand about the taser. Even when Adam and Eddie saying it’s a special taser, it’s still ridiculous.

If she dies without a backstory, I would be disappointed. Right now, I still don’t understand her character’s motivation. I think the problem with Tamara is that we don’t really know her. She’s has an obsession with magic and killing it. Why? Did magical creatures kill her family? Did she hate fairytales as a child? We really don’t know.

I agree, the supposed “love triangle” between Aurora/Philip/Mulan was silly. I really think now, that Mulan saw him as a protective older brother. But also, if Philip did not have True Love for Aurora in Broken, that kiss would not have worked.

[RumplesGirl]

I thought it was unfair to hate on Tamara after the first time we met her. She had only one scene but I understand about the taser. Even when Adam and Eddie saying it’s a special taser, it’s still ridiculous.

Adam and Eddy have since said that the taser was their biggest regret of the season. Eddy said he wished they used a syringe or something else because of all the backlash.

I agree, the supposed “love triangle” between Aurora/Philip/Mulan was silly. I really think now, that Mulan saw him as a protective older brother. But also, if Philip did not have True Love for Aurora in Broken, that kiss would not have worked.

I agree. I think mostly the triangle came from the eyes of the fans. I never had any doubt that Philip told Aurora he loved her before the Wraith sucked out his soul but so many people thought it was Mulan.

Speaking of Aurora: I found her annoying until the very end. I thought they made her a very watered down, dull, annoying, useless version of her story. They could have made her such a cool character.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[thelonebamf]

RG, I agree with you so very much about Red. I didn’t care much for “Child of the Moon” either, and while it did teach us a few important things about Red and her abilities, it really didn’t end up having much of a point when we failed to see much of Ruby after that. It didn’t add much or make any great distinctions about how werewolves work in this universe, so meh. Not much of a point, really. Red’s only shining moment this season in my eyes was her talk with Whale on the ledge. A very sweet moment- and I like the idea of Frankenstein and the Werewolf being buddies. They can hang out and watch old black and white horror movies that remind Whale of his high-contrast homeland. XD

As I’m fairly new to the show, I had been exposed to some fan opinions before actually settling in to watch it myself. So I knew that there was supposed to be some kind of dynamic between Mulan and Aurora and that fans liked talking about it. I felt a little disappointed by what was actually on the screen, but I’ve also realized that fans will latch on to anything (especially regarding ships, lol!) regardless of how much we actually see in canon. I didn’t dislike Aurora (I thought she was going to just whine the whole time, but she seemed genuinely interested in helping the others) but she was sort of one dimensional for me. I actually liked Mulan *less* than Aurora until the Mogwai episode. I thought her interactions with Belle were cute and more indicative of a real person with something to prove and something to protect.

I’m trying to imagine how Aurora might have been developed differently. (Also, pardon my confusion, but in early episodes Regina and Maleficent talk about how Phillip and Aurora overcame the sleeping curse. So why is Aurora asleep again at the beginning of season 2? I think my mind must have messed up somewhere.) Aurora in the animated film was a little sassy, had a lovely singing voice (par for princesses) and was raised by fairies? A bit of a curious streak. I’m trying to imagine where we could edge some fun character development in to that story.

"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."

[Myril]

@thelonebamf wrote:

I’m trying to imagine how Aurora might have been developed differently. (Also, pardon my confusion, but in early episodes Regina and Maleficent talk about how Phillip and Aurora overcame the sleeping curse. So why is Aurora asleep again at the beginning of season 2? I think my mind must have messed up somewhere.) Aurora in the animated film was a little sassy, had a lovely singing voice (par for princesses) and was raised by fairies? A bit of a curious streak. I’m trying to imagine where we could edge some fun character development in to that story.

A bit to the confusion of anyone who knows merely the Grimm and the Disney version of Sleeping Beauty: Aurora is not the original Sleeping Beauty. In the early version of Perault (which the Grimm version is based on, but they left some things out) Sleeping Beauty has two children, a son name Day (french Le Jour) and a daughter named Dawn (french L’Aurore – Dawn, like Buffy’s “sister”, what a coincedence). Regina and Malifecent are not talking about Phillip and Aurora, they are talking about Aurora’s mother. Aurora says in the first episode she appears, that Maleficent was first after her mother and then her.

I find the reactions to Aurora interesting, many who find the character annoying, boring, wasted. She is the one princess who kinda gets the typical princess treatment, she seems to be spoiled, hardly able to look after herself, the damsel in distress type. The interesting, rather amusing thing is, Aurora is treated like that on the show itself, not by the writers but by characters, treated like a child, the little one, a fragile unexperienced young woman. Phillip is annoyingly patronizing her after she woke up, Mulan sees in her just the princess she has to protect because she promised it to Phillip (she though starts to see more in her after a while), Snow is carying but not taking her serious on her own terms, and just Emma seems to not automatically assume that Aurora is in need of protection. If I were in Aurora’s shoes it would annoy the heck out of me – and she does react annoyed. She tells Phillip no to spare her, she follows Emma, Mulan and Snow, feeling that she had to take justice in her own hands, she resists Cora, something a lot of people wouldn’t have done. She is as much brave and strong as any of the other princesses and female heroes in the show, just in a different way. And she is sassy in my opinion. Seeing parallels to Belle here, who sometimes as well is taken as not as heroic as other of the female characters on the show.

@Maryrose D. wrote:

Phillip- he created the whole Aurora/ Mulan love triangle which bores me to death since those two are way better as friends than jealous kids. Also he has done nothing except get sucked by a wraith and kiss a girl in the entire show. I find he just caused massive problems and if he wasn’t so stupid certain problems or issues would have been revolved sooner.

Poor guy, so far he has been just a plot device, and that twice. And in both cases Phillip was the catalyst for a story of possible womance (female bromance, some call it girlcrush).

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[RumplesGirl]

I find the reactions to Aurora interesting, many who find the character annoying, boring, wasted. She is the one princess who kinda gets the typical princess treatment, she seems to be spoiled, hardly able to look after herself, the damsel in distress type

I think that’s part of the problem. After a season of having Snow as our “staple princess” who was shown to be such a rockstar when she was in the woods (not to mention Emma’s general amazingness) I expected Aurora to be cut from the same cloth. But you do make a good point: out of all the princesses we’ve seen thus far, Aurora was by far the one most accurately depicted as a typical princess.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[obisgirl]

I think a lot of people forget, the Aurora in the Disney movie was a teenager. Wasn’t she 18 or 19 when Maleficient said that she would prick her finger on a spindle wheel and die? To me, if she’s roughly the same on the show, that’s where the attitude comes from. She’s a teenager.

Also, we haven’t really seen Aurora’s backstory yet on the show. We’ve heard hints of what happened, but we haven’t seen the full story.

But I can see why she might be seen as annoying, and a tag-along.

On Mulan, I’m not saying I hate her because again, we have not seen her backstory yet.

[thelonebamf]

Myril- thanks for clearing that up for me. So many details slip from my mind, it’s nice that someone has my back! XD

I actually don’t dislike Aurora. I do think it would be nice to see more of her so she can develop a bit more as a character. To be honest, it was kind of refreshing to see a princess who… was a princess. I mean, not all royal ladies can be kick-butt crossbow wielding warriors of justice, right? I mean, some of them have to be good at cross-stitching tapestries. Myril is right, it wasn’t the show, but the other characters that treated her like a girly princessy-princess. She herself wanted to help, wanted to get involved, and in the end was brave enough to make a sacrifice to do so. (I do wish the writers had come up with something a little more active for her to do. She was a little bit of dead weight until she was actually a detractor because of Cora’s control.) In the end, I’m okay with Aurora because you know what, there are girls like Aurora out there who are going to relate to being treated that way. It’s nice to see a character like that refuse everyone else’s notion of her and try so very hard to be useful and dedicated.

I don’t hate Mulan, don’t even dislike her. I do think that it seemed like her character went a little backwards though. She seemed more personable during the events of the past than in the present- but maybe that’s just the mask of dedication making it harder for emotions to peek out.

"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."

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