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For Tamara it is too early for me. In the moment I need more infos. I hate her in this moment, because she is tricking everybody. Maybe even Greg and there are so many missing puzzles for her character.
But the most character I hate altough I think I shouldn’t is the Blue Fairy. She could have stop everything from the start. She could do something to stop the ogres war, when children has to go to war with 14. She could give Bae the advise that true loves kiss can beak any course. She could have give Rumple the tree to get back to his son. She could have protect Regina from her mother and give her a spell so nobody can find them. If Daniel and Regina got the last bean and go to our land. They would have got there happy endings. But of course when the evil queen wouldn’t exist. David would marry Abigail, cause he wouldn’t meet Snow and find a way for Frederic. Emma wouldn’t exist and Neal would not find his true love, who loved 300 years after him. Emma would not steal a stolen car and Henry would not exist, who is the undoing of the Dark One.
So is she up for a greater plan for the good to end the curse of the Dark One or is she poorly written. I mean morrain refered her as bigger than anything, but was not able to break a barrier of the Dark One (i mean he was dying). 😕
So in this moment the character that i did not like is Blue.[adrotate group="5"]Heros don't get their Happy Ending!
Oh my god I forgot Hook. Happens often lately, but I want to keep Hook. In the moment he is a little bit plane. We only know about his wish for revenge, what is absolutely understandable and he is a little bit suicidal. But I think that is because he is at the lowest stage of his live. He has nobody not even a crew. For me his no villain at all. He is really a sad character that covers it up with a sunny playboy behaviour to protect him. When he talks with Emma about the lost boys we can see there is a little bit more and I really want to see it. So oltough I am a Rumbeller no hate for him at all. For me he gives Rumple a good opportunity to be the man for Belle without her guidance so he could be really worthy for her.
Heros don't get their Happy Ending!
Interesting thread …
I ‘strongly’ disliked Cora- I never felt any sympathy for her at any stage & was glad when she passed on (I know it’s bad to say, but she is the one character I just felt was plain old rotten, twisted, damaged to her core & beyond all repair- heart or no heart). She made her choice/s, could have chosen love at any point, yet she chose evil & power- not cool.
George I don’t like- he’s a nasty piece of work, as was James, I didn’t enjoy seeing either one again this season.
Rumple I love to hate sometimes- I just WISH he’d learn a ‘be good’ lesson & have it stick for any length of time!!!
Regina I love to hate sometimes as well, for the same reasons as Rumple.
Neal/Bae I’m not sure if I still dislike him or I’m just VERY, VERY disappointed in him- cant stand that he actively caused someone he supposedly loved- who was only 17yrs old!!! To be wrongly imprisoned for his own crime, then totally abandon her… that’s just beyond low in my mind. Then to not even say he’s sorry when they next meet some 10yrs later…..Grrrrrrrr, it just pressed all my buttons & I cant forgiven him yet.
Tamara I dislike a lot atm- for what she is doing & for what she is going to do….. the women is horrid for cheating on Neal like she is & I’m not liking Owen for being ok with it all- it’s just gross.
Edited to add: I forgot Pino/August & Gep- Oh man, I admit I really did Hate that arc in S1, I didn’t get it at all & hated Gep’s & August’s actions & choices from start to stop- I didn’t mind a bit when he was ‘rebooted’, not that Gep deserved it- it still drives me nuts lol.
@Surayya wrote:
Neal/Bae I’m not sure if I still dislike him or I’m just VERY, VERY disappointed in him- cant stand that he actively caused someone he supposedly loved- who was only 17yrs old!!! To be wrongly imprisoned for his own crime, then totally abandon her… that’s just beyond low in my mind. Then to not even say he’s sorry when they next meet some 10yrs later…..Grrrrrrrr, it just pressed all my buttons & I cant forgiven him yet.
In real life, if someone I loved did that to me, and people were ‘shipping me with that person b/c they were first love, I would question, ‘What is the matter with you?’ No matter the circumstances, it was a horrible thing to do to Emma.
@Surayya wrote:
Edited to add: I forgot Pino/August & Gep- Oh man, I admit I really did Hate that arc in S1, I didn’t get it at all & hated Gep’s & August’s actions & choices from start to stop- I didn’t mind a bit when he was ‘rebooted’, not that Gep deserved it- it still drives me nuts lol.
I’m not a parent, so I really cannot relate to what Geppetto did being a smart move on his part but I agree. I think it was selfish to some degree. If Pinnochio had stayed, he could have remained a normal boy. My rationale for that is Cinderella. She was pregnant when the curse hit and remained pregnant during the curse.
@obisgirl wrote:
In real life, if someone I loved did that to me, and people were ‘shipping me with that person b/c they were first love, I would question, ‘What is the matter with you?’ No matter the circumstances, it was a horrible thing to do to Emma.
Is implying something is the “matter” with someone for having an opinion with which you don’t agree a good way to keep things polite?
I determine if I hate a character based on a combination of the character’s actions and the circumstances, including the character’s intent in doing what they did, not just the outcome.
So for Neal, I find it hard to separate what he did from the fantastical “fate” and “Curse” circumstances set in the show. The best I can do for a real life parallel is some scenario involving a criminal organization and witness protection.
- For example, Neal and Emma were mixed up with a drug cartel, but the only way for them to ever be safe and free is if the cartel was taken down. He gets approached by the FBI to be an informant, but he cannot reveal that to Emma. As part of witness protection he knows he’ll be separated from her, cannot contact her or anything until a decade later. Yet if he turns this down, not only will he and she suffer, but so will her family at the hands of the cartel. So he does what he thinks is the right thing, even though it tears him apart. If I were in those circumstances, I might find it a “star-crossed” lovers kind of thing, and might understand why people who knew the whole story could root for a reunion. It isn’t about “first” love, or even for the sake of a child, but about reuniting two people who have always loved each other but they had limited choices about how to really stay together.
This “he did it for her own and the greater good” interpretation isn’t just my unique way of seeing it–the actress playing Emma draws a parallel between the Charmings choice to send Emma in the wardrobe and Neal in J. Mo’s Tvline interview of March 1. It is the same one where the actress talks about Emma having “an undeniable connection” to Hook, so you might have seen it. The struggle that J.Mo. talks about for her character is how do you love someone who chooses the greater good, rather than putting you first? She doesn’t talk about what he did as how can you be with someone who is selfish enough to sell you out, or put you in jail, because it’s just something so awful you could never recover from it.
So for me, I do not hate Neal, but I also do not think there is anything “the matter” with those who dislike what he did or think it is something, even with the explanation, that they could never forgive. We all see things differently. Discussing why ought to be the fun part of having a forum like this.
Now if I were to ignore circumstance and intent, I probably would include Hook on my list of hated characters. He robbed Belle of her memories, her entire identity. Belle was unwilling to forgive her own father for even attempting to do that to her, so as a viewer, I wonder why I am inclined to forgive Hook. Maybe because I feel sure she will eventually get her memories back?
Then there’s what he did to Emma. As bad as the US prison system may be, it certainly beats being left for dead in a cell with no hope of escape (far as they all knew), with no food, water, bedding or any comforts of any type. Again, not something that is easy to put into real world terms outside of some fantastical third world or again, mafia situation. Even though Emma had betrayed him, she had not left him for dead, so his response was not proportional to the harm she’d caused him. I still do not hate Hook though, because I consider the rest of the circumstances. I know Emma escaped quickly enough. I imagine Cora would likely have wiped the floor with him, had he dared to turn on Cora. I interpret the scenes that Hook was reluctant, even despite Emma’s betrayal of him, to leave her and the princesses to that fate. So I excuse him (for now), thinking it is something Emma can forgive, and that I as a viewer can forgive. I still can see why someone might hate the character, even if I don’t.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
@KFChimera wrote:
@obisgirl wrote:
In real life, if someone I loved did that to me, and people were ‘shipping me with that person b/c they were first love, I would question, ‘What is the matter with you?’ No matter the circumstances, it was a horrible thing to do to Emma.
Is implying something is the “matter” with someone for having an opinion with which you don’t agree a good way to keep things polite?
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I can actually relate to this b/c it happened to me in real life. Not soon after I first got together with my boyfriend. My mom kept on pushing me and pushing to be friends with an old crush who broke my heart and I kept on pushing back on her b/c I was happy and couldn’t really understand why she was doing that. Then, it came out later to be a silly test then which upset my boyfriend and I very much.
So that’s where I’m coming from.
@obisgirl wrote:
I can actually relate to this b/c it happened to me in real life. Not soon after I first got together with my boyfriend. My mom kept on pushing me and pushing to be friends with an old crush who broke my heart and I kept on pushing back on her b/c I was happy and couldn’t really understand why she was doing that. Then, it came out later to be a silly test then which upset my boyfriend and I very much.
So that’s where I’m coming from.
I see. I’m sorry you had that happen. I think the show has a little different flavor to it but now that you mention it, Gold is kind of pushing Emma toward Neal. I would not want her to be manipulated by Gold, any more than I want Gold manipulated by Regina with Lacey’s transformation. I won’t hate Neal’s character for what Gold does though. Gold/Rumpel is of course such a complicated character that as I said, I often hate what he does, but somehow stop actually hating him (so far). Though I can totally see how he might have crossed too many lines with some viewers.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
@KFChimera wrote:
@obisgirl wrote:
I determine if I hate a character based on a combination of the character’s actions and the circumstances, including the character’s intent in doing what they did, not just the outcome.
So for Neal, I find it hard to separate what he did from the fantastical “fate” and “Curse” circumstances set in the show. The best I can do for a real life parallel is some scenario involving a criminal organization and witness protection.
I see the situation differently KFChimera.
In my mind, Neal could have manned up & told Emma he was taking responsibility for his own actions & gone to prison himself.
He could have explained that he loved her & wasn’t about to let her go to prison for his actions, that she deserved better than that & that a friend/August was going to look out for her while he was doing his time- failing that he could have simply gone & left her a note saying he had to put things right & August would look out for her while he was away- I could have lived with that 😉
Had she gone to prison as things stand now, but he had then waited for her in Tallahassee or even left her a letter saying he was sorry & if she could forgive him he’d be waiting at such & such etc, again I may be more forgiving- but he didn’t.
For me his actions are just despicable, even given the circumstances, but then I’m looking at the situation through the eyes & life experiences of someone who is very loyal & has an exceptionally strong sense of justice, which is why I’m enjoying this thread- like you say, getting other peoples takes on why they dislike/hate a character, even one which you yourself may like/love is really very interesting (I love Hook/Killian, but I totally understand how others could really despise him, same with Rumple & Regina) 🙂@obisgirl wrote:
I can actually relate to this b/c it happened to me in real life. Not soon after I first got together with my boyfriend. My mom kept on pushing me and pushing to be friends with an old crush who broke my heart and I kept on pushing back on her b/c I was happy and couldn’t really understand why she was doing that. Then, it came out later to be a silly test then which upset my boyfriend and I very much.
So that’s where I’m coming from.
Sorry to hear that, it’s totally understandable that kind of thing would push your buttons then.
I agree with Surayya, I just don’t see how people overlook the fact that Neal sent Emma to jail when she was 17, I mean that’s pretty harsh for a teenager to go through.
Either way, I actually don’t hate Neal, I find him quite humorous at times 🙂
The character I want to add to the list is the Sheriff/Keith, such a pig!
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