which characters you hate? (no flaming or bashing allowed)

[obisgirl]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

Getting back to character we hate: I still can’t decide if Keith knew what was going on. He said to Rumple before Rumple removes his tongue in SB “I didn’t know you two were still together” which makes me think that he thought that was Belle. I really dislike him. I’m good with never seeing him again.

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Me too. I like Alan Rickman’s Sheriff and the BBC version (they’re both fun characters there), but I’m fine with never seeing OUAT Sheriff again. He just oozes sleaze.

[kfchimera]

Yes, he does give off classic sleazeball. Bet he wanted Graham’s job–he would have considered Regina’s “council meetings” a job perk.

Actually back in S1 there is a scene when David is missing and Graham radios for “all available units” sort of implied there were other officers but no idea where any of them are because Emma seemed like the only deputy.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[surayya]

@obisgirl wrote:

@RumplesGirl wrote:

Getting back to character we hate: I still can’t decide if Keith knew what was going on. He said to Rumple before Rumple removes his tongue in SB “I didn’t know you two were still together” which makes me think that he thought that was Belle. I really dislike him. I’m good with never seeing him again.

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Me too. I like Alan Rickman’s Sheriff and the BBC version (they’re both fun characters there), but I’m fine with never seeing OUAT Sheriff again. He just oozes sleaze.

This 100times over!

[kfchimera]

What about Mo? He was beastly to Belle by trying to control her and take her memory.

I don’t hate him, but I see how someone might. I hated Cora for basically a parallel thing–killing Daniel to control Regina. He wasn’t as bad, but if his plan had succeeded he would have in a way “killed” his own daughter, at least, her awareness of herself as Belle. I know he did that out of fear and love for her though, not out of a misguided notion that power is all that matters for happiness as in Cora’s case.

Belle had to make a point so she told him she never wanted to see him or Rumpel again. Yet if it ends that way, with her only having forgiven Rumpel, I think it is kind of sad, especially for a character who can see the good in people. Quite a contrast again to the loving relationship between BATB animated Belle and her ditzy but well-meaning father.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[RumplesGirl]

Belle had to make a point so she told him she never wanted to see him or Rumpel again. Yet if it ends that way, with her only having forgiven Rumpel, I think it is kind of sad, especially for a character who can see the good in people. Quite a contrast again to the loving relationship between BATB animated Belle and her ditzy but well-meaning father.

I agree it would be sad, but from a practical standpoint I also think having Belle have a tearful reunion/forgiveness scene with Mo eats up too much time. 😆 I just assume in my head that she and Mo are trying to work things out on the side.

As for Mo himself….I was very upset with him in The Crocodile and the level of control he tried to exert over Belle. It did seem Cora like now that I think about it. But, I also think Mo was trying to do what he thought was best for his daughter, whereas Cora was always trying to do what was best for herself. Thus why she told Regina “it’s my life” in The Stable Boy

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[thelonebamf]

@Keb wrote:

He doesn’t really have his son back, though. Yeah, Bae wouldn’t let him die and wouldn’t let him die alone, but he’s still angry. There’s no reason to believe that they’ve spoken since Gold recovered. So while Bae might be a reason to be on his best behavior, as Regina points out, he’s not an inspiration the way Belle is. And when he’s that crushed–he’s in exactly the same place Regina was, with Regina being Cora and telling him that the Charmings won’t accept him, and then smashing that last sliver of hope he was clinging to by taking away the one person he had left to love him–completely.

I think the main difference is that Bae still needs proof that his father can be a good person. Belle already believes he is. Sometimes you need someone to believe that you already are what you’re trying to be in order to jump start the process. 🙂

"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."

[obisgirl]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

But, I also think Mo was trying to do what he thought was best for his daughter, whereas Cora was always trying to do what was best for herself. Thus why she told Regina “it’s my life” in The Stable Boy

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I agree with that observation.

@KFChimera wrote:

Yes, he does give off classic sleazeball. Bet he wanted Graham’s job–he would have considered Regina’s “council meetings” a job perk.

True.

@KFChimera wrote:

Actually back in S1 there is a scene when David is missing and Graham radios for “all available units” sort of implied there were other officers but no idea where any of them are because Emma seemed like the only deputy.

there was a simliar scene from Skin Deep when Emma got a call from the station; which, if Emma’s the only one working there and no one else, who would call her from the station?

[thelonebamf]

This is going to sound like a really silly question, but I’ve noticed that a lot of people can’t stand Henry. My husband says it’s just a case of a bad child actor (he likes the boy who plays Baelfire much more) but had a hard time of pointing out exactly what it was that ruins the character for him. All he could say was that Henry tends to pull him out of the story, like he doesn’t believe the actor is really a part of it.

I actually don’t have a problem with Henry myself. I do think it’s a little problematic that he’s more of a catalyst than a character (people just do stuff because of him but not with him in any plot relevant way). I think I’m really a poor judge of acting in most cases (especially with younger actors) so I was wondering if anyone would mind telling me some specific examples of when Henry just wasn’t “working” for them.

"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."

[RumplesGirl]

Jared has gotten so much criticism this season and I feel terrible for him. I hope it doesn’t kill his spirit. I think he has a lot of room to grow but he does not ruin the experience of OUAT for me.

As for Henry, I find him illogical but I also think he’s eleven. He does idiotic things, but he’s 11. I am more forgiving than some fans, I think.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[thelonebamf]

I may be right there with you. I’ve spent a lot of time working with children and I think a lot of times when people complain about child actors- it’s more that the children don’t speak and carry themselves like the more experienced adult actors. I usually gloss over this. Children are awkward. They say awkward things. I think it’s better that way that to have them be overly groomed. I guess it does stand out when a child actor is particularly notable, but this usually has something to do with more dramatic screenplays etc.

I had this same problem with the Harry Potter movies. Fans were always talking about how terrible the younger actors were and I had no idea what the frame of reference was.

I had a feeling there was a lot of this sort of criticism floating around- I’m not generally one to “meta view” a show and seek out interviews or twitter feeds. I tend to stick to what the canon presents to me unless I have a particular question. I agree though, I hope it’s not disheartening for him.

"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."

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