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November 22, 2014 at 10:35 pm #291326darkones1fanParticipant
Okay folks we got a new game for you. We call it WHO DID IT BETTER!!!! Once has taken our favorite Fairy tale/ Disney characters and given them their own spin (For the most part) Now we ask you lovely forum users, which version do you prefer. The Once Version or the Disney Version. List the things Once did better than Disney, and list the things Disney did better than Once.
Lets begin!
[adrotate group="5"]November 23, 2014 at 2:12 pm #291364KebParticipantOkay, I’ll bite: Beauty and the Beast vs Rumbelle.
Beauty and the Beast is my favorite Disney animated film ever, and Rumbelle is what made me obsessed (rather than just a fan of) with Once. So this is going to be hard.
Rumbelle advantages:
–More time to tell the story (90 minutes vs so far four seasons)
–More complex characters (They don’t get more complex than Rumple, and Belle’s recent episodes have shed some light on how she’s more than just an ingenue with brains too)
–More costumes (and more costumes that one could, with Emilie’s legs and Mr. Gold’s budget, go to work in…which can be fun to get away with.)
–More screenshots & fanart possibilities (even with the sequels, there’s still a lot more to work with for Rumbelle, because more time overall–and bits from the other stories/locations/characters can be worked into scenes that fit the Beauty and the Beast story to expand the fan possibilities)
–Belle’s adventures with other princesses are The. Best. Thing. Ever. I just need to see her interact more with Snow & Emma now.
–The timeline. It’s fun and convoluted and not as interesting to do for the movie.
–Emilie & Bobby. Best on-screen chemistry in the history of chemistry. They make both characters beautiful, fun, interesting, and believable for me–even when they’re not given much to work with.
–Beast gets to be human (at least sometimes)–at least he gets to LOOK human about half the time. Most of the figurines/images/etc from the film keep him as the beast, because it’s more iconic, but the whole point is that his happy ending was to be himself–human–again. And I’m in the crowd that prefers the prince.
–Libraries. Belle’s gotten two (or four if you count her mother’s and the one in the mansion). Love the one in Beast’s castle, but…mmmm. More is better.
Beauty and the Beast advantages:
–It’s short. You can watch the whole thing, including the sequels, in one day now. (Back when there was just one season, that was…technically possible…and I might have done it once…but it’s a bad, bad idea.)
–Christmas special. It’s among the better sequels Disney produced in the 90s when they latched onto that as a way to make extra money. And it’s beautiful. And it’s Christmasy and I’m just WAITING for Thanksgiving to come so I can watch it (I don’t like to overdo Christmas, so…)
–Songs! Though it always bothered me that in the film, Belle doesn’t actually get a solo song to herself–almost all of them are ensemble pieces…which seems odd thematically since she’s a loner! Still, mmm songs.
–Cloaks. I love the costumes in Once to DEATH but in this particular field, despite the lack of detail and the animating mistakes, I prefer Belle’s cloaks in the cartoon. They’re easier to replicate and not so busy.
–Without this film, we wouldn’t have Rumbelle, certainly not the way it is. Belle’s character was, before Frozen, one of the most directly lifted from her film versions in Once (both look and personality). And if it hadn’t been for my obsession with the film, I’d never have discovered this amazing fan community, because I may not have been as interested in Once.
–Gaston & Lumiere: Actually more fleshed out in this version. I’m still hoping we’ll see more of Lumiere in Once, but I don’t think we will.
–Possibly a more healthy relationship model between Belle & Beast (Adam, yes I know it’s debated but it’s as good a name as any and better than many) and Belle & Rumple. The only person we actually see Adam kill is, sort of, Gaston, in self-defense. Rumple’s killed at least 17 people, including his first wife, and tortured plenty of others. And while Adam was willing to starve Belle into submission, Rumple’s lies to her are arguably a lot worse and a lot more dangerous for her. Plenty of people have very valid objections to Rumbelle, which I’m not going to get into here, but I’d say it’s fair to say their current relationship is not the healthiest. By the end of the film, though we viewers have to fill in a few blanks, it’s reasonable to believe that Adam & Belle are in a healthy relationship.
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Oh yeah, the biggest advantage of the movie: Belle is IN it. For the whole film. Belle in Once gets constantly forgotten and then you have an ep where she matters and it’s like Oh, Yeah, we’ve had Belle all along! Yup!
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November 23, 2014 at 2:22 pm #291365TheWatcherParticipantAriel OUAT vs Disney Ariel
I prefer Disney version. OUAT Ariel, while it was a visualy stunning thing, loved her look and personaility, just lacked in the story department. I liked certain things about her (ARIEL STABBED REGINA!!!!!!) but ultimately, the story was way too short, and to me just could have been better. One of things I was actually a bit iffy about was the whole concept of the Sea Goddess. I like that they gave Ursula a creative spin and made her different from both the Disney and original version, but it made me feel….idk. Odd. I would hav preffered Ursula as a sea witch and I would have preferred them to use the deleted concept of Ursul being Ariel’s banished Aunt like they did in the Disney braodway version.
I also didn’t like how Ursula was Regina. But the fact that Ursula turned out to be a real person made it better for me, so theres that. All in all, I preferred the Disney version but I still like OUATs version.
Disney Peter Pan vs OUAT Pan
I. LOVED. OUAT. PAN!!!!!!!! I am actually still not a fan of Disney version of Peter Pan. I prefer the 2003 live action version. But making Peter and evil little twerp was just FANASTIC! Not even that, making him a FATHER!!!!! I loved it! Peter Pan is still OUAT’S best villain and I will always want mor of him.
Costume could have been more…earthy, but that’s just a nitpick.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICNovember 23, 2014 at 2:34 pm #291367MatthewPaulModeratorOUAT Snow White vs Disney Snow White
What OUAT did better
– Snow doesn’t have a grating high pitched voice. She’s also a lot more independent, stronger, and can fend for herself. OUAT has Bandit Snow.
– Charming is an actual developed character.
– The Evil Queen/Regina doesn’t hate Snow out of vanity and envy. She instead blames Snow for the death of Daniel.
– Graham.Inbetween
– I love both versions of Grumpy.What Disney did better
– It’s the first full length animated Disney feature, so it deserves credit.
– The songs. Heigh Ho, Whistle While You Work, and Someday My Prince Will Come are classics.
– The slapstick with the dwarfs, especially Dopey.
– The amazing sequence of the Evil Queen transforming into the old peddler woman. -
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