Who Do You Think the death is?

[RumplesGirl]

I was just going back through past posts in regards to this and came across @Sweetgrass post that I must have missed this morning.

S4 as the end of the series. Now, I think there is a lot of merit to that theory (I’ve been pretty vocal that we’d get half a S5 to get to 100 episodes but now I’m starting to think that’s not true) So if S4 is the end of the show, does that make this death even more superfluous? If you kill a character (whichever one you think it is right now) and then only give our character one season to work through it–probably less given that there has to be the actual story and arc of S4 to deal with–is that fair to the characters? This may be story reasons as Adam is saying but is it also an attempt to drive up viewership to get more seasons?

[betsypaige24]

I can’t jump to that sort of conclusion.  It seems random to just say S4 is the last season and while I don’t think  ONCE will go past S5 (because I’m assuming ratings will fall in S4), I’m also not ready to proclaim that next is the last. As a result, I can’t possibly say that the death is superfluous.  If ratings are not good in S4, then I think ABC (who likes Adam/Eddy and I think really like the show) would give A/E the courtesy of a 13 episode order for the 2nd half of that season so that they could wrap up their story.

In any case, I honestly doubt that however long the show goes that the characters will be given a lot of time to work through it. The death will happen and then, S4, everything will be the same. Frankly, the only character who I think would be affected enough by a death to have it affect him long-term story wise is Gold. I’m only considering Hook/Belle/Bae, of course – the others are safe as far as I’m concerned.  They enjoy making Gold suffer, so to me it only makes sense that  Belle or Bae would ie………and if it’s Belle, they can have  Gold go off the deep end like they really want (I don’t necessarily mean evil stuff, I mean he’d have a breakdown…..).

Let’s say it’s Bae that dies, ok Gold would  be shattered, but he’d have Belle…..but it would still give Bobby great stuff (and possibly Emilie, depending on if the writers actually allow them to share the screen at the same time).  Can you really see ONCE spending any time in the next season showing Emma and Henry grieving? The death would rock them until the end of this season, but S4 – yeah, they might be sad at times, but mostly I’ve no doubt that they’d act as if everything was the same… mostly because Adam/Eddy don’t care about things like this. We’d get some stupid new villain and no one would have time to breathe and react.

 

[kfchimera]

We have no idea how many more seasons the network is game for them to do, nor how many the stars of this series truly want to do.  Let’s face it, Vancouver isn’t the balmy weather of LA and a bit out of the loop for them to be getting other projects.  People move on in their lives too. Lana is getting married,  GG’s having a kid, Colin just had one, and ultimately, shelf lives in Hollywood (particularly sadly so for women in particular) are a bit limited.  Television has lured some great movie stars, recently, even still bankable ones, but a lot of “just past their opening a movie prime” with good, powerful scripts.   I love this show but it is a bit on the campy side rather than serious drama, so career wise?   I don’t know if it makes sense for any of these people to be thinking it is a long term gig.

I think they ALL probably enjoyed it tremendously but if someone is leaving now, and it is for “story” reasons then I imagine a few possibilities in a general way:

1) A tragic story of how evil gets victories and good must suffer but overcome heartbreaking loss (Neal, Snow, Emma Charming or Henry)

2)A heroic sacrificed story, in a bittersweet story of  just how deeply someone can change from selfish to selfless (Regina or Hook)

3) Something in between like Romeo and Juliet, where Romeo kills himself upon seeing Juliet is dead, then Juliet wants to reunite themselves in death.  (Belle).

If it is Neal, it’s just in Nathan of Heroes territory though for me, given they’d already run a storyline but at least it was only ONE fake death.

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/11/03/the-many-deaths-of-nathan-petrelli-on-heroes/

I really hope they’re just playing us all and they were cagey and the writers thought they meant a current series regular, but they meant Red.  I love Red but Ory’s moved on so it would be better than one of the regulars who all have characters that ought to be given much better then what it sort of is shaping up to be here in terms of “arc completion.”  I’ll judge after they show it though but I may be like I was with Heroes, more in the mood to complain about the show than watch it.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[Grimmsister]

S4 the end :'(  …No no no. Now that they have gone this long, lets go all the way too the magical number 7, there is no other way.

[Marty McFly]

Never mind its just panic

[Cinders]

My theory of the day is that Regina and WWW were not switched at birth, but their hearts were switched at birth.

Robin Hood will comt to the aid of Regina. Using the arrow that always finds it’s mark, Robin will aim for WWW’s heart, the arrow will turn in mid air and strike Regina.

[RumplesGirl]

My theory of the day is that Regina and WWW were not switched at birth, but their hearts were switched at birth. Robin Hood will comt to the aid of Regina. Using the arrow that always finds it’s mark, Robin will aim for WWW’s heart, the arrow will turn in mid air and strike Regina.

Tragic!

Wasn’t there a spoiler at the very start of the season that the OQ romance would be tragic??

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Cinders]

Cinders wrote:

My theory of the day is that Regina and WWW were not switched at birth, but their hearts were switched at birth. Robin Hood will comt to the aid of Regina. Using the arrow that always finds it’s mark, Robin will aim for WWW’s heart, the arrow will turn in mid air and strike Regina.

Tragic!

Wasn’t there a spoiler at the very start of the season that the OQ romance would be tragic??

And didn’t Sean tweet that when he read the script he nearly fell out of his chair?

[Phee]

I thought Adam had confirmed on Twitter at some point the the “tragic turn” was Regina not going into the pub all those years ago? (Even if so, doesn’t necessarily exclude the possibility for more tragedy, of course.)

[Ozma]

RumplesGirl wrote:

Sarah_TN wrote: The ironic thing is that if the reason why they did release this spoiler is because of what the PA said, being that she never said it was a main cast member (and they did), a few theories would have been thrown around, but then the matter would have just died out on it’s own.

I have a hard time believing that the person to whom the PA was referring–unhappy, trashing their trailer–is any of the main cast. They all hang out together! They go to concerts and the bar and are actually all friends off set. MRJ just said during his #AskMRJ that working with JMo is like working with a close friend. Sean has tweeted pics of MRJ, Colin, Josh and himself hanging out. We’ve seen pics of Josh, JMo, Colin and MRJ together having a good time. JMo and Ginny are best friends. Everyone speaks of each other very highly. In other words, I don’t think that the PA was referring to one of our regulars. Also..I find her tweets fishy. Without prompting or being asked for information: she just tweets a major spoiler about a death?

I know what you mean, but don’t forget….she’s a media professional in training. She’s young, and starting out in this industry. I don’t think it was an accident that this got leaked. Call me a conspiracy freak, but I would entertain a possibility that she, Adam, and Eddy were all in on this as a way to get conversation started. I would also entertain a possibility that you are correct, though. That is kind of fishy. If that news wasn’t supposed to get out, and A&E really thought they could use it to their advantage, my question is what in the world were they thinking?!?!?! I think by doing this they did stir up buzz, but in the process have made a lot of their fanbase very unhappy and dissatisfied. They cast a black cloud over everything, just like you said earlier. That’s going to wear on people, and will eventually turn them off. It may be after March, but the question will always loom: “Who is going to die”? That’s going to ruin the show for everyone, because just like somebody said earlier in the thread, nobody’s going to watch for the episodes. They’ll be watching to see if their favorite makes it past another week.

 

I agree with everything all of u said, but there is something also not good in the PA spoiler, because unless there are several minor death characters, and we can not point the trash, messy and unhappy actor, if there is only one death, this rumours can also destroy the actor carer, i mean will always exist that doubt if what the PA said is true or not.

One example, if is Neal, i serious doubts that this was story line, i will wonder if MRJ was unhappy, and even got to the point of trash and get the trailer messy, and this will spread through the internet and media and obvious in hollywood that lives of this rumours, becuase id is Neal why make an actor regular to use him in 16 epi( if the death happens there) to in the end he only had like 1 hour total of screen time in all epi? that doesnt make sense, thye could have kept him as recurring, i mean even recurring( like robbie and parker had more screen time than MRJ in part1), if is any other actor i think i may consider that is story, but still , if we dont have any other minor deaths will always hang the rumour about what the PA said.

Also, the death didnt exact started with the PA, i remenber seing Adam anwser a Hook fan , whne they start filming 15, why did he kill hook on 15, back then adam even anwser something like “i know what u are doing”, so im not saying is hook, but is very strange that some weeks before someone asked adam  about a regular character death, because if no one talk about it i think we all would think the character would be Happy because of the whole twiter war, i think we all thought the regulars were safe.Going back to the PA, if i remenber right her words were, THE actor probably doesnt mind leaving, ( this means that is story related, not the actor asking or all set notice the lack of interest in the character), but if is related to other characters we dont know.

This spoiler only made people fear the next part season, and even the fandom is a small part of the viewers, there is always someone that spoil this to a regular viewer and even the regular viewers, may think, why would i keep seing if they keep killing characters let`s not forget that in their heads rumple is dead and that will eventual will make the regular viewer tired of so many confusions, also maybe even on their heads the show was over for the season, because of hiatus.

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