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January 31, 2014 at 10:38 pm #242106Killian JonesParticipant
There was a tweet from Adam today in which he said that it was for story reasons when asked if the person leaving was unhappy. But my response (which I didn’t send to Adam out of respect) was: but would you ACTUALLY tell us if it was personal? He’s a businessman as well as a writer and the last think you want is to air your dirty laundry–so to speak. If someone is unhappy or got a bigger offer or simply decided it was time to call it quits, would Adam and Eddy really come out and say that? Add to this that Adam has told every fan/shipper to “have hope” and then turned around and said, “yes but that was all pre-death” means to me, IMO, that this death wasn’t planned from the start. Either they’ve backed themselves into a corner writing-wise and can’t figure a way out (messy love triangle has turned into an unholy shipping war that the internet talking *badly* about ONCE and Oncers…so kill one of the men) OR someone is unhappy.
I know it was probably wrong to do it but I just straight out asked him lol and ******* wouldn’t you know it the dude actually answered lol
[adrotate group="5"]January 31, 2014 at 10:44 pm #242115RumplesGirlKeymasterBut would he lie about lying?
See we could do this forever. TV is a business. So if it WAS for creative differences or unhappniess I don’t think he’d come out and say.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"January 31, 2014 at 10:45 pm #242116Killian JonesParticipantBut would he lie about lying? See we could do this forever. TV is a business. So if it WAS for creative differences or unhappniess I don’t think he’d come out and say.
Well I asked him about all we can do is take his word on the matter right? I mean if you say creative differences it’s not like there’s anything wrong with that
January 31, 2014 at 10:48 pm #242118awoovoParticipantThere was a tweet from Adam today in which he said that it was for story reasons when asked if the person leaving was unhappy. But my response (which I didn’t send to Adam out of respect) was: but would you ACTUALLY tell us if it was personal? He’s a businessman as well as a writer and the last think you want is to air your dirty laundry–so to speak. If someone is unhappy or got a bigger offer or simply decided it was time to call it quits, would Adam and Eddy really come out and say that? Add to this that Adam has told every fan/shipper to “have hope” and then turned around and said, “yes but that was all pre-death” means to me, IMO, that this death wasn’t planned from the start. Either they’ve backed themselves into a corner writing-wise and can’t figure a way out (messy love triangle has turned into an unholy shipping war that the internet talking *badly* about ONCE and Oncers…so kill one of the men) OR someone is unhappy.
I know it was probably wrong to do it but I just straight out asked him lol and ******* wouldn’t you know it the dude actually answered lol
He wouldn’t lie, that’s such a joke it’s ridiculous. Seriously A and E are on my bad list because all they do is lie. He lied about telling people he never gave them hope so boom you’re caught in a lie right there.
Of course he’s gonna lie, he’s not gonna reveal whom is the death. Even though there has been loads of overwhelming evidence stacking up from all sides and I’m sure he didn’t like that those pics leaked from filming last weak.
You guys realize that filming with characters dressed in black at the graveyard would have gone undetected if it wasn’t for the set visit.
He’s gonna do the same thing he always does. He’s a businessman first and foremost and lying to protect the product is always part of the agenda.
They’re gonna be in trouble though because if “storyline reasons” is gonna equate to lets show how big and bad the Witch is by having her kill a main character, people are gonna be ticked. Essentially making the character a sacrificial lamb/guinea pig to show to the audience and the characters that the Witch means business. That’s not gonna fly well with anybody.
January 31, 2014 at 10:50 pm #242119RumplesGirlKeymasterRumplesGirl wrote: But would he lie about lying? See we could do this forever. TV is a business. So if it WAS for creative differences or unhappniess I don’t think he’d come out and say.
Well I asked him about all we can do is take his word on the matter right?
*shrug* Don’t know.
All the times he’s told various ships (including a WoodenSwan fan!) “Hope!’ only to go back when he realized how it was being taken and said that he meant “hope it’s a good story” and then lately when people asked about the “hope!” being a lie he said, “well that was all pre-death.”
So I think there is a difference between a long planned story reason and a story reason that grew up as a solution to a problem. Both are “story reasons” but there is a difference between lying and manipulating words.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"January 31, 2014 at 10:51 pm #242120Killian JonesParticipant^^^ I just don’t get why he would lie about creative differences it’s not like he has to go into anymore than that. If it’s creative differences just say that who can fault him for that?
January 31, 2014 at 10:57 pm #242124RumplesGirlKeymaster^^^ I just don’t get why he would lie about creative differences it’s not like he has to go into anymore than that. If it’s creative differences just say that who can fault him for that?
When show runners or actors leave for creative reasons there is always a big hubbub. And often times the show fails utterly OR changes directions and becomes bad(X-Files and Moonlight and even Revenge spring to mind). If it’s creative differences, people will want to know what those differences were: screen time, storyline, a messy drama behind the curtain. And if Adam wants to keep that under wraps so that the show doesn’t go under or to spare the show any negative backlash, then he can trot out the “it was a story reason” mantra without going into detail about just WHEN it became story.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"January 31, 2014 at 10:58 pm #242125awoovoParticipant^^^ I just don’t get why he would lie about creative differences it’s not like he has to go into anymore than that. If it’s creative differences just say that who can fault him for that?
He lies because he has to protect his product. Now don’t think this death means the actor is gonna go unpaid. The actor still gets paid for the season and if they’re trying to keep it under-wraps then they will pay the actor more to not go out on auditions nor to leave Vancouver. That would give it away. This happened with Lost.
Again though he says it’s for storyline reasons which IMO is not true but if it is he needs to tread softly. If this death is to show the Wicked Witch is as wicked as her name says she is then that’s gonna leave fans very upset. It essentially makes the death a guinea pig for the audience to see just how much of a threat the Witch is.
Do you guys realize that if it wasn’t for the jersey story then we would have never ever known that not only is RH in 3×16 but a scene like that was being filmed in that episode? They would have gone off undetected if it wasn’t for the set visit.
January 31, 2014 at 11:02 pm #242126Sarah_TNParticipantBut would he lie about lying? See we could do this forever. TV is a business. So if it WAS for creative differences or unhappniess I don’t think he’d come out and say.
I think it’s a half-truth; the story was pre-planned to fit an actor’s wishes, dismissal, or circumstances; one of the three, well at the stage of outlining the plot and story line for season 3. I don’t know this 100% to be the case, but Adam isn’t going to come right out with information on whether the decision really was out of his hands, and implementation of the actor’s departure would be delayed for adherence to contractual agreements….part of that contract, possibly containing a pre-stipulated requirement that certain information be kept priate; whether medical, personal, professional, or any combination of the 3 which ultimately, may be why the actor is leaving, and why Adam is having to dance a fancy two-step to put on an act for the public eye.
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January 31, 2014 at 11:02 pm #242127Killian JonesParticipantWhen show runners or actors leave for creative reasons there is always a big hubbub. And often times the show fails utterly OR changes directions and becomes bad. If it’s creative differences, people will want to know what those differences were: screen time, storyline, a messy drama behind the curtain. And if Adam wants to keep that under wraps so that the show doesn’t go under or to spare the show any negative backlash, then he can trot out the “it was a story reason” mantra without going into detail about just WHEN it became story.
Well honestly and I know it might be a touch naive of me but I’m gonna take him at his word that this was for story reasons. People might want to know what the differences were but he can stick by the creative differences mantra and not go into it any further than that out of professional courtesy to all those involved and what not. I don’t know I’m willing to believe him at this point.
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