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At the end of the day, we can all have our own speculations about the real motives that the writers have to do anything. I’m simply basing my opinion off of how I’ve interpreted the story so far and what the producers have said. I know that script writing is a business as well as an art, but I think A&E are good at keeping to their vision. They didn’t cave to change their original idea that Henry’s father would be Neal just because fans guessed well in advance he was really Baelfire. They maintained the course they wanted. I’m not presuming to know what the writers have planned in advance; I’m just saying I think they mapped out S3 well in advance, including this sad spoiler. I don’t think it was just sprung out of nowhere due to outside pressures or whatnot. That would be a very sloppy way to conclude a season when OUAT ratings have been dropping consistently.
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At the end of the day, we can all have our own speculations about the real motives that the writers have to do anything. I’m simply basing my opinion off of how I’ve interpreted the story so far and what the producers have said. I know that script writing is a business as well as an art, but I think A&E are good at keeping to their vision. They didn’t cave to change their original idea that Henry’s father would be Neal just because fans guessed well in advance he was really Baelfire. They maintained the course they wanted. I’m not presuming to know what the writers have planned in advance; I’m just saying I think they mapped out S3 well in advance, including this sad spoiler. I don’t think it was just sprung out of nowhere due to outside pressures or whatnot. That would be a very sloppy way to conclude a season when OUAT ratings have been dropping consistently.
I’m of the opinion that I do not think this death is gonna happen towards the end of the season, I think it’s gonna happen in late March or early April. Near the beginning or about the mid point of season 3B.
Slurpeez108 wrote: At the end of the day, we can all have our own speculations about the real motives that the writers have to do anything. I’m simply basing my opinion off of how I’ve interpreted the story so far and what the producers have said. I know that script writing is a business as well as an art, but I think A&E are good at keeping to their vision. They didn’t cave to change their original idea that Henry’s father would be Neal just because fans guessed well in advance he was really Baelfire. They maintained the course they wanted. I’m not presuming to know what the writers have planned in advance; I’m just saying I think they mapped out S3 well in advance, including this sad spoiler. I don’t think it was just sprung out of nowhere due to outside pressures or whatnot. That would be a very sloppy way to conclude a season when OUAT ratings have been dropping consistently.
I’m of the opinion that I do not think this death is gonna happen towards the end of the season, I think it’s gonna happen in late March or early April. Near the beginning or about the mid point of season 3B.
Rose McIver’s interview also supports this theory, since she clearly said she knows. She would likely only know if she had read an upcoming script, and they’ve only written up to 318 so far by the looks of it.
RumplesGirl wrote: So maybe the death was pre-planned but the RELEASING of this spoiler is baffling unless you’re looking at marketing.
The spoiler got released when it did because the PA tweeted about having heard that someone was gonna die. Once that info was out there, Adam and Eddy had no choice but to confirm or deny it officially. I do think they’d have released the spoiler before S3B started anyway, but they probably would have saved it for an ad campaign that would have launched maybe a couple of weeks before the show comes back. Just enough time to get people, (the general viewership who see the TV promos, not just the online fandom) worked up about it and generate some momentum to hopefully boost the ratings for the first ep back. I can just imagine the promo, dramatic music, “Before the season is over…one…will…diiiiieeee,” with dramatic individual shots of the cast and each one fades to black. But they got beaten to the punch when the PA tweeted about it.
I don’t think it’s the same person, I just don’t…….. I don’t believe that any of the major actors would be that unhappy as to make his or her misery blatatnly obvious to everyone nor do I think they’d leave their trailers like a trash heap. I don’t think it’s the same person, frankly……..
Back to some older posts, RG, I agree – this is a huge black cloud hanging over the season. I think it was a terrible mistake to release this. Yeah, you want people to talk about your show, but you want them to be EXCITED AND HAPPY for it’s return, especially when you’re already losing viewers at a rapid rate. This sort of manipulation of the fans tends to turn them off.
Jenna, I don’t think it’s an unhappy person who’s leaving, but let’s say it is. I can only really speak for Emilie, but she was extremely underutilized on LOST and she never left. Her character was written out for 1 season, but eventually came back. I DO at times (even now) wish that she would leave because she’s an actress – she should work and – but of course I want what she wants. She’s clearly extremely happy being on the show; she adores Belle, ADORES Rumbelle and loves Bobby….I think if she wanted to leave, A/E would find a way to send Belle away without killing her, without ending the Rumbelle story, in case Em wanted to return. They love her, even if they don’t love Belle.
There are plenty of people who don’t think Hook’s a hero……I don’t, I don’t even like his arc (I don’t buy it). I think his death would make far less of an impact than Belle or Bae, the only two other people I can see dying. So, if it’s for story purposes, it has to be either of these two…..anything to make Gold suffer more.
I said I thought it might be Charming that dies I still believe there is a good chance its him. Considering that interview with Rose/Tink when she says its someone unexpected that hasnt been theorized would die. I dont think alot of people would expect Charming to die, but alot of people has theorized that it would be either Hook, Neal or Belle so if we are basing our asumptions on the Rose interview naturally it wont be one o those three then. But that is asuming Rose has heard and knows that people believe the deathto be one of those three.
If it is Charming that dies, that also sort of makes sence storywise, since he was already suppossed to have died in the pilot episode, but was keept on then. Now the story is in a way being brought back too the moment of the first curse, only this time with Wicked enacting it. So maybe Charming will die this time somehow from the same reasons that almost got him killed the first time. Only contradiction is, that we know he doesnt die during the curse being cast, because we have seen filming pics of him being back in New Storybrook… hmm its not so easy this guessing game… It could be that he dies during the act of saving his new Little baby from the Witches Wicked claws? That is what almost got him killed the first time around.
But if the death has to happen because of a real life issue with the actor not being happy or just wanting new grassing grounds, then I dont see it being our Charming Josh. I dont see why he would be unhappy with his role, working on set with his fiance´ and his character being so prominent on the show. If its the “real life reason” I lean more towards it maybe being Belle or Neal, but then that again brings on a problem with Rose’s statement in her interview ???
Very difficult this guessing game is 🙂
Slurpeez108 wrote: At the end of the day, we can all have our own speculations about the real motives that the writers have to do anything. I’m simply basing my opinion off of how I’ve interpreted the story so far and what the producers have said. I know that script writing is a business as well as an art, but I think A&E are good at keeping to their vision. They didn’t cave to change their original idea that Henry’s father would be Neal just because fans guessed well in advance he was really Baelfire. They maintained the course they wanted. I’m not presuming to know what the writers have planned in advance; I’m just saying I think they mapped out S3 well in advance, including this sad spoiler. I don’t think it was just sprung out of nowhere due to outside pressures or whatnot. That would be a very sloppy way to conclude a season when OUAT ratings have been dropping consistently.
I’m of the opinion that I do not think this death is gonna happen towards the end of the season, I think it’s gonna happen in late March or early April. Near the beginning or about the mid point of season 3B.
Rose McIver’s interview also supports this theory, since she clearly said she knows. She would likely only know if she had read an upcoming script, and they’ve only written up to 318 so far by the looks of it.
Rose McIver’s interview IMO is just her dodging the question and she wouldn’t have to read a script to know a death especially if it’s already been filmed and Tink was in those pics in the jersey story.
Her quote is basically just to try to send us back to the old drawing board but to me if it walks like a duck, flaps it’s wings like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is a duck.
The only way we’re gonna have confirmation is keeping track of the set life.
The only way we’re gonna have confirmation is keeping track of the set life.
Will we? If they keep the dead character appearing in flashbacks we might not know before it’s too late.
My question would be, why kill off a main character? If the actor wanted to leave the show, why not give their character a happy ending going off into the sunset? Either way there is going to be a backlash over who dies because several parts of fandom prefer certain characters over others.
Yes a death gets everyone talking but why not kill off one of the beloved supporting characters to show the audience that the villain means business? Red could be killed off which would not only explain Red’s absence from the show but she’s beloved enough for her death to show the villain is evil.
In Downton Abbey, the only reason Matthew Crawley was killed off was because his actor wanted to leave and do other things, and STORYWISE it wouldn’t have made sense for Matthew to willingly not be around for Mary and his newborn son.
I presume if an actor did want to leave, they have to give notice to allow their exit to be worked into the story. So was the death planned from the start of 3A? The middle of 3A? During the hiatus?
Also theoretically, any of the adult characters could up and leave whenever they wanted so why not give them their happy ending instead of killing them off causing backlash. Henry is the only character that can’t really up and leave because he’s only 12. Therefore if Jared Gilmore did want to leave, there is only one way Henry would be able to go. Child characters are notorious for changing their appearances during shows runs, however normally, the child character is not a big part of the show whereas in Once Henry is a big part so theoretically if Jared Gilmore did want to leave, how would they deal with that other than to kill him off.
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Keeper of Felixawoovo wrote: The only way we’re gonna have confirmation is keeping track of the set life.
Will we? If they keep the dead character appearing in flashbacks we might not know before it’s too late.
The only way we’re going to have confirmation is to watch S3B
The fact that the spoiler says they will NOT be returning at all, even for flashbacks, means that their story is officially over–ties are severed to the other characters. So who wouldn’t we need for flashbacks with other characters.
Charming, Snow and Regina. They all come as a package with their history.
Henry: maybe. Jared is older now and can’t do flashbacks of Henry as well as he once could. We’ve seen him getting the book. What other flashbacks do you need?
Belle: maybe. Her flashbacks mostly center on her time in the DO castle, but how much is there to tell.
Hook: was in NL for 300 years away from all our action. No connection to other character flashbacks. So he is possible.
Neal: was in NL for a time as a young boy, grew up in our world. Only tie for flashbacks is Emma, but how much is there? We do need to see the rest of the story with August. And because Eion hasn’t been on set I don’t think the death has happened YET. They have to give that story first if it is Neal
Emma: Pffft. I’ll eat my hat if Emma dies.
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