Who Do You Think the death is?

[Sarah_TN]

Phee wrote:

RumplesGirl wrote: So maybe the death was pre-planned but the RELEASING of this spoiler is baffling unless you’re looking at marketing.

The spoiler got released when it did because the PA tweeted about having heard that someone was gonna die. Once that info was out there, Adam and Eddy had no choice but to confirm or deny it officially. I do think they’d have released the spoiler before S3B started anyway, but they probably would have saved it for an ad campaign that would have launched maybe a couple of weeks before the show comes back. Just enough time to get people, (the general viewership who see the TV promos, not just the online fandom) worked up about it and generate some momentum to hopefully boost the ratings for the first ep back. I can just imagine the promo, dramatic music, “Before the season is over…one…will…diiiiieeee,” with dramatic individual shots of the cast and each one fades to black. But they got beaten to the punch when the PA tweeted about it.

I don’t think it’s the same person, I just don’t…….. I don’t believe that any of the major actors would be that unhappy as to make his or her misery blatatnly obvious to everyone nor do I think they’d leave their trailers like a trash heap. I don’t think it’s the same person, frankly…….. Back to some older posts, RG, I agree – this is a huge black cloud hanging over the season. I think it was a terrible mistake to release this. Yeah, you want people to talk about your show, but you want them to be EXCITED AND HAPPY for it’s return, especially when you’re already losing viewers at a rapid rate. This sort of manipulation of the fans tends to turn them off. Jenna, I don’t think it’s an unhappy person who’s leaving, but let’s say it is. I can only really speak for Emilie, but she was extremely underutilized on LOST and she never left. Her character was written out for 1 season, but eventually came back. I DO at times (even now) wish that she would leave because she’s an actress – she should work and – but of course I want what she wants. She’s clearly extremely happy being on the show; she adores Belle, ADORES Rumbelle and loves Bobby….I think if she wanted to leave, A/E would find a way to send Belle away without killing her, without ending the Rumbelle story, in case Em wanted to return. They love her, even if they don’t love Belle. There are plenty of people who don’t think Hook’s a hero……I don’t, I don’t even like his arc (I don’t buy it). I think his death would make far less of an impact than Belle or Bae, the only two other people I can see dying. So, if it’s for story purposes, it has to be either of these two…..anything to make Gold suffer more.

The ironic thing is that if the reason why they did release this spoiler is because of what the PA said, being that she never said it was a main cast member (and they did), a few theories would have been thrown around, but then the matter would have just died out on it’s own. It would have been in the back of a lot of minds, but would have never taken off like it did when A&E spoiled it. One an theorize they took “lemons” and made them into “lemonade” by using the leak to manipulate their fans into becoming a buzz machine for the show, but I don’t think there were any lemons here. They poured gasoline on a flame when news of the upcoming death was released, and turned that flame it into a bonfire.  A&E are seasoned professionals. They are too smart to goof up by not forseeing the consequences of news like this. That’s why I do not believe this was in any way, an accident. On their part, or even possibly, on part of the PA.

[RumplesGirl]

The ironic thing is that if the reason why they did release this spoiler is because of what the PA said, being that she never said it was a main cast member (and they did), a few theories would have been thrown around, but then the matter would have just died out on it’s own.

I have a hard time believing that the person to whom the PA was referring–unhappy, trashing their trailer–is any of the main cast. They all hang out together! They go to concerts and the bar and are actually all friends off set. MRJ just said during his #AskMRJ that working with JMo is like working with a close friend. Sean has tweeted pics of MRJ, Colin, Josh and himself hanging out. We’ve seen pics of Josh, JMo, Colin and MRJ together having a good time. JMo and Ginny are best friends. Everyone speaks of each other very highly.

In other words, I don’t think that the PA was referring to one of our regulars. Also..I find her tweets fishy. Without prompting or being asked for information: she just tweets a major spoiler about a death?

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Sarah_TN]

Sarah_TN wrote: The ironic thing is that if the reason why they did release this spoiler is because of what the PA said, being that she never said it was a main cast member (and they did), a few theories would have been thrown around, but then the matter would have just died out on it’s own.

I have a hard time believing that the person to whom the PA was referring–unhappy, trashing their trailer–is any of the main cast. They all hang out together! They go to concerts and the bar and are actually all friends off set. MRJ just said during his #AskMRJ that working with JMo is like working with a close friend. Sean has tweeted pics of MRJ, Colin, Josh and himself hanging out. We’ve seen pics of Josh, JMo, Colin and MRJ together having a good time. JMo and Ginny are best friends. Everyone speaks of each other very highly. In other words, I don’t think that the PA was referring to one of our regulars. Also..I find her tweets fishy. Without prompting or being asked for information: she just tweets a major spoiler about a death?

I know what you mean, but don’t forget….she’s a media professional in training. She’s young, and starting out in this industry. I don’t think it was an accident that this got leaked. Call me a conspiracy freak, but I would entertain a possibility that she, Adam, and Eddy were all in on this as a way to get conversation started.

I would also entertain a possibility that you are correct, though. That is kind of fishy. If that news wasn’t supposed to get out, and A&E really thought they could use it to their advantage, my question is what in the world were they thinking?!?!?! I think by doing this they did stir up buzz, but in the process have made a lot of their fanbase very unhappy and dissatisfied. They cast a black cloud over everything, just like you said earlier. That’s going to wear on people, and will eventually turn them off. It may be after March, but the question will always loom: “Who is going to die”? That’s going to ruin the show for everyone, because just like somebody said earlier in the thread, nobody’s going to watch for the episodes. They’ll be watching to see if their favorite makes it past another week.

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[Phee]

Also theoretically, any of the adult characters could up and leave whenever they wanted so why not give them their happy ending instead of killing them off causing backlash. Henry is the only character that can’t really up and leave because he’s only 12. Therefore if Jared Gilmore did want to leave, there is only one way Henry would be able to go. Child characters are notorious for changing their appearances during shows runs, however normally, the child character is not a big part of the show whereas in Once Henry is a big part so theoretically if Jared Gilmore did want to leave, how would they deal with that other than to kill him off.

Fair point, there could certainly be a good real life reason why they might kill Henry off. I’ve gotta wonder if they really would kill a kid though, especially when there are kids who watch the show? Henry coming into his teen years could give them the opportunity to put him through some teen angst. Maybe he’s got powers that come from being the truest believer and they’ll kick in around puberty and the character could go off the rails a bit as he tries to come to terms with it, and they could show his parents trying to come to terms with it too. So it could go either way, maybe it’s an inconvenience having a kid who’s growing up really fast, or maybe that’s something they could actually use.

Earlier in the chat, I was saying that the only way I could see either of Snowing being killed is if Ginny wanted to take time off to be a full time mum. And if they had plans to have more kids in the next year or so, maybe that would influence her leaving the show too because they can’t keep making Snow pregnant. She could still live with Josh in Vancouver, and do her own acting stuff during Once’s shooting hiatus. But I dunno that they’d kill off Snow, because it would be like killing the hope of the show, and if the person leaving really wouldn’t be coming back even for flashbacks, then Snow’s not a likely candidate.

[MatthewPaul]

Neal: was in NL for a time as a young boy, grew up in our world. Only tie for flashbacks is Emma, but how much is there? We do need to see the rest of the story with August. And because Eion hasn’t been on set I don’t think the death has happened YET. They have to give that story first if it is Neal.

The thing is we don’t know how they plan to go about telling the story between August and Neal, if they even still plan on telling that story. For all we know, the story could involve August/Pinocchio and Neal/Bealfire in their youth, so even if MRJ was no long on the show, they could still technically explain it with Dylan Schmidt there instead. Or perhaps we find out how August figured it out without Neal actually onscreen. Even if this were to be a dropped storyline idea, which would frustrate us demanding for more fill in the blanks, I’m sure it wouldn’t be the first storyline idea they’ve dropped.

[RumplesGirl]

Earlier in the chat, I was saying that the only way I could see either of Snowing being killed is if Ginny wanted to take time off to be a full time mum. And if they had plans to have more kids in the next year or so, maybe that would influence her leaving the show too because they can’t keep making Snow pregnant. She could still live with Josh in Vancouver, and do her own acting stuff during Once’s shooting hiatus. But I dunno that they’d kill off Snow, because it would be like killing the hope of the show, and if the person leaving really wouldn’t be coming back even for flashbacks, then Snow’s not a likely candidate.

That’s the only way I could see them killing Snow too, but I don’t think Ginny wants to give up her career as an actress. She seems to be able to do it all, and like you said, no Snow flashbacks? Unlikely.

The thing is we don’t know how they plan to go about telling the story between August and Neal, if they even still plan on telling that story. For all we know, the story could involve August/Pinocchio and Neal/Bealfire in their youth, so even if MRJ was no long on the show, they could still technically explain it with Dylan Schmidt there instead. Or perhaps we find out how August figured it out without Neal actually onscreen. Even if this were to be a dropped storyline idea, which would frustrate us demanding for more fill in the blanks, I’m sure it wouldn’t be the first storyline idea they’ve dropped.

That’s true but they have said that the jail thing will come back up and I think for the sake of sanity they REALLY need to show to remaining bits of that moments if only so we can all agree on the events and move the heck on.

But you’re right: it wouldn’t be the first time they’ve dropped a storyline.

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[Slurpeez]

Fair point, there could certainly be a good real life reason why they might kill Henry off. I’ve gotta wonder if they really would kill a kid though, especially when there are kids who watch the show?

Exactly, and why kill Henry? Just send him to boarding school. They could invent a reason like Emma thinks he’s had enough of fairytales and wants to keep his “normalcy” so he never gets his memories of SB back.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

Phee wrote: Fair point, there could certainly be a good real life reason why they might kill Henry off. I’ve gotta wonder if they really would kill a kid though, especially when there are kids who watch the show?

Exactly, and why kill Henry? Just send him to boarding school. They could invent a reason like Emma thinks he’s had enough of fairytales and wants to keep his “normalcy” so he never gets his memories of SB back.

Killing Henry might also confuse the casual viewer because they might say, “well can’t Emma just bring him back again? TLK did it once…?” Even if Henry wasn’t DEAD DEAD (I know there is debate) it was portrayed that way.

Also, killing Henry basically ensures that NO ONE has a happy ending. Regina and Emma and Neal without their child? I mean, how could those three EVER go on?

Snow and Charming and Rumple watching their children suffer like that? Hook and Belle having to watch the people they love and care about work through loosing a child?

It would be quite emotional but on a ABC/Disney show about family and hope…I just don’t see it.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[PriceofMagic]

How many kids are actually watching the show for Henry though? Or would they rather see Snow and Belle and Rumple and Regina?

Really there’s no reason why they should kill off any of the characters. However, Henry is the one character they could kill off without upsetting one part of the fandom too much and is also the one character that wouldn’t be required for flashbacks.

Character and who would be upset at their death:

Belle- Dearies, Belles and RumBellers

Neal- Firethieves and SFers

Emma- Hookers, Ducklings, Firethieves, SFers and CSers

Regina- WickedRegals, Hoodies, OQers

Charming- Charmers, Snowingers

Snow- Snowpeople?, Snowingers

Hook- Hookers, CSers

Henry- ?

Just a thought, do we know the character is going to be killed by the WW or are we just assuming? What if the character dies in a car crash or gets run over or something. That would be a bit of a shocker, everyone including the characters think the biggest threat to life is the WW and it turns out the regular dies a “normal” death with no magic involved whatsoever.

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[RumplesGirl]

Really there’s no reason why they should kill off any of the characters. However, Henry is the one character they could kill off without upsetting one part of the fandom too much and is also the one character that wouldn’t be required for flashbacks.

But they can’t just think about the fandom. The fandom is a small potion of total pie that is ONCE viewership. Killing the kid might be ok for the fandom who often have some not so nice things to say about the poor kid, but the audience as a whole might not take kindly to killing Emma and Regina and Neal’s 13 yr old.

And as I said about a page back when it comes to flashbacks, you can do without Belle, Neal, Hook, and Henry for various reasons. Belle’s flashbacks are almost exclusively Rumbelle but as she wasn’t in the DO castle for that long, there isn’t much to show. Neal’s flashbacks have almost always been as young Bae with Dylan, and there is really only one or two flashbacks that are needed as Adult Neal. Hook was in NL for the whole history so far and has no connection to the action in the EF and Henry is growing up.

Just a thought, do we know the character is going to be killed by the WW or are we just assuming? What if the character dies in a car crash or gets run over or something. That would be a bit of a shocker, everyone including the characters think the biggest threat to life is the WW and it turns out the regular dies a “normal” death with no magic involved whatsoever.

I think we’re assuming but i would be surprised if it was any other way. They want to do the death justice then they need to go out with a bang.

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