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He didn’t mean it like that, he mean that he went into the knife in the sense of being stabbed……….I don’t see that as Eddy saying he was trapped. He really contradicts himself. On the one hand, he says that Gold is definitely dead. Then he says basically “well, he SHOULD be dead because he stabbed himself, but who knows?”
How do you know? Because I know a lot of us are taking it to mean that his soul literally into the dagger and then the dagger POOFED to Oz.
*rubs head*
But if Rumple was trapped in the knife, wouldn’t that mean that Malcolm was trapped too?
Except Malcom wasnt’ the dark one at the time of the stabbing. So I think Malcolm may be dead dead, where as Rumple is only mostly dead, and stuck inside the Dagger
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I’m still in the camp that the price for Rumple coming back is that he loses his Dark One powers. but probably just has standard magic. good magic.
I think so too, because I’m starting to buy the theory that the WW is the new Dark One and HER name is now on the dagger.
(50 cookies on her name being Jade)
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"obisgirl wrote: But if Rumple was trapped in the knife, wouldn’t that mean that Malcolm was trapped too?
Except Malcom wasnt’ the dark one at the time of the stabbing. So I think Malcolm may be dead dead, where as Rumple is only mostly dead, and stuck inside the Dagger
I see.
So, Malcolm is ALL dead.
How do I know? The same way you and everyone else who is speculating he went into the dagger knows………I don’t. We’re all speculating. You read the quote one way and I read it another; we won’t actually know until we see it on screen. It’s interesting, but I’ve never seen that speculated anywhere else, so it’s not like it’s a universal theory…..and why would he go to Oz? Why would he go anywhere? What bugs me is that he disappeared probably to keep Rumbelle apart – a total plot device.
I’m still in the camp that the price for Rumple coming back is that he loses his Dark One powers. but probably just has standard magic. good magic.
I think that’s a price he is clearly willing to pay – in fact he was willing to pay with his life….,but if that was the only price, losing his DO powers, why did he disappear? He should have been redeemed and saved by his actions and instead he’s torn apart froml his loved ones? That’s a punishment, not a reward.
How do I know? The same way you and everyone else who is speculating he went into the dagger knows………I don’t. We’re all speculating. You read the quote one way and I read it another; we won’t actually know until we see it on scree
I didn’t mean it snappishly. I thought maybe you had another Eddy quote somewhere where he clarified.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"To me, it seems the portion of the dagger which must have penetrated Rumple is still shiny, but the part that killed his father has rusted or is bloodstained. Possible it’s just shadows playing tricks. But to me, it tells a story that I can’t figure out.
I’m 50/50 on shadows or an altered blade. Altered blade would be interesting though. Just had a quick look and didn’t see any other pics that showed it properly to be able to compare.
What confuses me about Belle is that this can’t be the first time she’s seen Gold; how does she know based on what we saw in those photos that he’s being controlled?
Why can’t it be the first time she’s seen him? As for knowing he’s being controlled, someone who was there watching said he walked in behind WW, and she’s there waving his dagger around, so it’s a reasonable assumption for Belle to make that he’s being controlled.
He didn’t mean it like that, he mean that he went into the knife in the sense of being stabbed……….I don’t see that as Eddy saying he was trapped.
That’s how I interpreted it too.
I’m sure you didn’t…………no worries!
No, that’s the only quote. I added to my above post…..so please see that.
I will say that he put it oddly, saying that Gold went into the dagger; I mean, who speaks like that? Why not just say he stabbed himself or he saw the dagger enter him? Of course, Gold did sort of thrust himself into the dagger as he thrust that into him, so who knows? It’s possible…. I mean, ANYTHING is possible. As I mentioned above, I don’t understand why Gold’s sacrifice gets him nothing but more pain…….
Why can’t it be the first time she’s seen him? As for knowing he’s being controlled, someone who was there watching said he walked in behind WW, and she’s there waving his dagger around, so it’s a reasonable assumption for Belle to make that he’s being controlled.
Oh right, I forgot that. Poor Belle…….she sees him and can’t even hug him, can’t even freak out in a happy way, sigh. I swear, Rumbelle hurts so much – they are all pain and tragedy. I can’t stand the thought of them being apart like this for the rest of the season and not getting an epic reunion
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RUMPLE IT’S RUMPLE GUYS. IT’S RUMPLE.
can we get a close-up of that dagger? does it have any name on it? Llcould it be Gold/Rumpel is still dead, but he is walking around only because he’s the DarkOne? why would Eddy say that Rumpel/Gold is definitely dead, but he’s the Dark One? what does that mean? does it mean HE was undone, but the curse was not? is this why Belle looks sad to see him? can’t the poor imp rest in peace even after death? I’m driving myself crazy
can’t see the name on it but I zoomed it in
http://thehooked1.tumblr.com/post/74374006419/yup-thats-the-dagger
Shiny on one end of the dagger…dark, rusted, bloodstained on the other. Just like the picture I posted earlier
How do I know? The same way you and everyone else who is speculating he went into the dagger knows………I don’t. We’re all speculating. You read the quote one way and I read it another; we won’t actually know until we see it on screen. It’s interesting, but I’ve never seen that speculated anywhere else, so it’s not like it’s a universal theory…..and why would he go to Oz? Why would he go anywhere? What bugs me is that he disappeared probably to keep Rumbelle apart – a total plot device.
I’m still in the camp that the price for Rumple coming back is that he loses his Dark One powers. but probably just has standard magic. good magic.
I think that’s a price he is clearly willing to pay – in fact he was willing to pay with his life….,but if that was the only price, losing his DO powers, why did he disappear? He should have been redeemed and saved by his actions and instead he’s torn apart froml his loved ones? That’s a punishment, not a reward.
I know, betsy, but unfortunately, until the end of this show Rumpel will keep getting punished instead of rewarded.
you see, his undoing, HIS undoing, is that he isn’t good, great Rumpel anymore. HE was undone. now he is the dark one, someone he never really fully became, even in his worst days.I mean, ANYTHING is possible. As I mentioned above, I don’t understand why Gold’s sacrifice gets him nothing but more pain…….
So maybe the real question is: who is controlling whom?
If Rumple is actually manipulating the WW, then Belle might look sad because she thinks he didn’t change after his big sacrifice. But what she doesn’t realize is that once again Rumple is protecting everyone from an evil person.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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