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Sure but the implication that Belle is supposed to be with Rumple, Bae’s dad, is there. And that is full of the icky. And it would turn people off. They would want that story over and done with.
Well this is what happens when you mess with fate and change things that shouldn’t be changed. Showing the AU that makes people go, “Oh no, that is SO wrong,” makes you think that things really did happen the way they were supposed to. For all the trials, all the pain that these characters went through in the actual universe, it was all still for the best, because the alternate universe just feels wrong, even if in that reality, people who we know of as enemies, are instead friends. It goes to show that you need the mix of sorrow and happiness, that’s the proper way that life needs to play out, because the alternate path that fate could have taken where folks were all happy families with each other, it just wouldn’t have been right.
[adrotate group="5"]RumplesGirl wrote: Sure but the implication that Belle is supposed to be with Rumple, Bae’s dad, is there. And that is full of the icky. And it would turn people off. They would want that story over and done with.
Well this is what happens when you mess with fate and change things that shouldn’t be changed. Showing the AU that makes people go, “Oh no, that is SO wrong,” makes you think that things really did happen the way they were supposed to. For all the trials, all the pain that these characters went through in the actual universe, it was all still for the best, because the alternate universe just feels wrong, even if in that reality, people who we know of as enemies, are instead friends. It goes to show that you need the mix of sorrow and happiness, that’s the proper way that life needs to play out, because the alternate path that fate could have taken where folks were all happy families with each other, it just wouldn’t have been right.
Yeeeeeeees sure. But with A and E and their notion of fate, I can’t seem them saying that the TL couples wouldn’t somehow end up together. That’s not how Fate works in ONCE. Snow and Charming, maybe pushed and pulled by Rumple, still would have been together cause that’s how TL work in our ONCEiverse.
Also I cannot emphasis enough the ick factor that would drive both the internet fan culture and non internet fan culture nuts. Espeically on a show that is promoted as family friendly.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I love that in my job, I frequently hear things like "Here come the Dwarves and the Merry Men"
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From the PA. Does this mean that the Merry Men are on set?
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"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Found one that hadn’t been posted yet.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I like the idea of a what if AU but my main question is what choice is it? Because there aren’t that many scenarios that would explain Neal being there except if when, as Phee suggested, he returned to FTL instead of our world when he escaped Neverland.. However if this alternate universe is based on that decision that would mean that he would still have been 14 or 16 when he came back. Timeline wise it wouldn’t make since for him to be an adult before Emma is even born. We don’t know when he came back to our world exactly but we know it had to be after Emma was born because he had aged to maybe about 25 by the time they met and Emma was 17 or 18. This puts about 7 to 10 years between their ages, not 17 or 18 years. So whether he escaped from Neverland to return to FTL or our world no matter where he decided to go he still would have arrived in either world after her birth. So if Snow is pregnant with Emma it can’t be because of that particular decision. My guess is it is a what if AU based on a decision that Rumple makes, and it is a decision we are going to see in 3-11 in a flashback involving Bae, Rumple, and Pan. I have no idea what that decision will be but it will probably make us have even more sympathy for Rumple.
Yeeeeeeees sure. But with A and E and their notion of fate, I can’t seem them saying that the TL couples wouldn’t somehow end up together. That’s not how Fate works in ONCE. Snow and Charming, maybe pushed and pulled by Rumple, still would have been together cause that’s how TL work in our ONCEiverse.
But the AU changed the course of fate. Bae returning to FTL instead of coming to our world would have been a major glitch in the matrix, and it would have thrown off future events for himself and anyone closely involved with him. It’d be like, “YAY he made up with his Papa, even saved him from the Dark One curse,” but then, “Well CRAP, now mortal Rumple caught the plague and died. If only he hadn’t made up with Bae and had his curse broken. Why did Bae have to come back and mess up fate, dammit!” The message that, “You see, you don’t try to mess with fate,” would be in keeping with the show’s pro-fate message.
Also I cannot emphasis enough the ick factor that would drive both the internet fan culture and non internet fan culture nuts. Espeically on a show that is promoted as family friendly.
My ship bias is gonna show here, but some AU ick may be necessary if they’re gonna push forward with SF in present day. If the AU solicits a reaction of, “OMG EWWWW NO, NEALFIRE ISN’T SUPPOSED TO BE WITH BELLE WHILE SNOW’S PREGNANT WITH EMMA, TAKE ME BACK TO THE REAL WORLD RIGHT NOW AND PASS THE BRAIN BLEACH PLZ,” then it’s sorta emphasising that SF is the situation that’s SUPPOSED to exist. *re-hangs dreamcatcher*
I still think that if Bae had come home after living in NL for a long time, he would have come home (and not by random chance) at a time when Rumple and Belle were already living together because Rumple would still be in the process of trying to get the Dark Curse set up. The AU wouldn’t go so far as to break up the one of the canon+endgame ships (and in pointing to this, our other two major ones are together on set, Snowing and Philora). So…no. If it is a Neal AU then it’s after Rumple and Belle meet and fall in love. Then Rumple can have his happy ending (Bae) and his happily ever after (Belle) but it’s Nealfire who doesn’t have everything because he came back before Emma was born and so they never meet, never have Henry which ruins Regina’s happy ending as well (hence the black wardrobe). And that’s my shipper side showing.
*goes to sit in Rumbelle corner and glare*
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"However if you are talking about a situation where Bae is able to escape from NL earlier AND he decides to return to FTL instead then I could see that happening but my guess is that scenario would involve Rumple volunteering to stay in NL if Pan would let Bae go home or killing Pan earlier and sacrificing himself…
However if this alternate universe is based on that decision that would mean that he would still have been 14 or 16 when he came back. Timeline wise it wouldn’t make since for him to be an adult before Emma is even born. We don’t know when he came back to our world exactly but we know it had to be after Emma was born because he had aged to maybe about 25 by the time they met and Emma was 17 or 18. This puts about 7 to 10 years between their ages, not 17 or 18 years. So whether he escaped from Neverland to return to FTL or our world no matter where he decided to go he still would have arrived in either world after her birth.
In the actual storyline we have, Hook left NL to go back to FTL before Bae left NL to come to our world. In the AU I’m imagining, Bae left NL first, went back to FTL, aged to adulthood, and that’s when Hook left NL and came back to FTL. And that’s how they’re the ages they are in the scenes we’ve seen being shot.
Hook still came back to FTL on his same t-word, not that long before the Curse date, (though that Curse event doesn’t actually exist in the AU), it’s only Bae’s t-word that’s been tweaked, because he’s now leaving NL at a different time to what he did in the story we already know. And that would be fitting if this ep ends up being a Nealfire centric. It’s only his personal actions and t-word that changed, but that single event of him leaving NL at a different time for a different destination, affected the futures of other characters as well as his own future.
The idea that Rumple died could play into Bae and Hook actually hanging out together now. Maybe Hook came back to FTL still bent on revenge, but when he got there, he discovered that Rumple had already died, and so his revenge plot was a no go, and that allowed for him to repair his relationship with now adult Bae instead.
I still think that if Bae had come home after living in NL for a long time, he would have come home (and not by random chance) at a time when Rumple and Belle were already living together because Rumple would still be in the process of trying to get the Dark Curse set up.
Depends how old Nealfire is in these FTL scenes, but he was 14 in NL, and has to be at least mid-20s in these scenes, if not older. That means he’s been back in FTL for at least 10 years. So you’d have to subtract at least 10 years off Belle’s current age to get the age she was when she got with Rumple, if Rumbelle were together already when 14 year old Bae came back from NL.
*goes to sit in Rumbelle corner and glare*
*cookie*? You know I love me some Rumbelle as well, so even though this AU theory seems rather diabolical of me, I’m just saying, it could be one explanation. And it wouldn’t be a permanent thing, it wouldn’t even really be REAL. Rumbelle would still be alive and together in real world present day. If anything, how much you hate the idea makes me think even more that it might be something they’d do, because they’d want to solicit that, “MENOLIKEY” reaction to the AU, because in turn, it makes actual present day look much more appealing.
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