Who is Filming Now? (Season 3) PART 3

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Ok I kind of get what you are saying but to me when Hook decides to return to NL has no relevance to when bae returned to our world because Bae thought he was figuring out how to leave NL on his own but when he left NL was dependent on Pan, no one else.  Pan was never going to let him leave until it was the right time for him to meet Emma and have Henry.  Noone knew that Pan wanted Henry or for what reason except Pan.  So the only reason that Bae would end up in any AU based on a what-if scenario before Emma was even born would almost definitely have to involve Pan, and since without Rumple there would not be a connection between them or most likely an evil queen because she probably would have ended up with Robin by that point otherwise, I think it has to be a Rumple decision but that is just my opinion and I do like things to be logical.  Thus far the timeline has been fairly logical.  Hook’s presence would also be explained if Rumple sacrificed himself to Pan because then Hook could move on out of  revenge mode earlier and would probably want to try to be a father to Bae.  Again this just makes a lot more sense to me if they are doing a what-if AU.  Who knows tho?

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Oh for sure, there’d have to have been some change in how exactly Bae got out of NL, because like you say, that was controlled by Pan. As far as we know, Bae hitched a ride on the Shadow to get outta there, but we also know that the Shadow started out as a separate entity from Pan, and we don’t know exactly how connected it was to Pan around the time when Bae left. Maybe the Shadow still had enough independence that it rebelled against Pan, and helped Bae get out of NL in an alternate way/time?

What you suggest about Rumple having sacrificed himself to Pan, in order for Bae to be saved, is a totally plausible option as well.

The more I think about this AU thing and the potential it could have for a Neal centric ep, the more interesting I find it. People who don’t like Neal hold it against him that he didn’t try to stay with Emma, and still get her to break the Curse somehow. People who do like Neal say that there was really no way that he could have stayed and still had the Curse broken. He left her to fulfill her destiny, so that fate could take its course. If he’d tried to defy fate by staying, then “terrible things” (Adam’s words) would have happened. As much as I’d love to see an AU that shows what exactly those “terrible things” would have been, I think that a similar message could be conveyed if we see him defy fate in how/when he got out of NL, and they show the affect it would have had. Moral of the story would still be the same: when Nealfire defies fate, things don’t work out like they were supposed to.

If Bae’s escape from NL was different, and in turn changed events in a way that he and Hook are there in FTL as adults before Emma’s even been born, then neither side of the triangle can be happy with that. CSers wouldn’t like Bae for having forced the change that meant that Emma wasn’t around to get with Hook. They could say, “He was wrong to have interfered with fate.” Yet those same people currently say, “He was wrong to have resigned himself and Emma to fate.” Can’t have it both ways.

So I guess on a certain level, this particular AU concept appeals to me as someone who wishes that people who hold certain things against Neal would be able to be more open minded about the situation he found himself in and the choice he made, and there could be potential for that to happen with this particular AU chain of events. That wasn’t my motivation for starting to think about this whole AU possibility, but the more I think about it, (and frankly I’ve thought about it way too much :-P), it’s where I’ve ended up at the moment.

Anyway, as of right now we really know nothing about what direction they’re going in. Any and all theories right now are based on a frillion guesses and assumptions, and the actual show could go in any direction. All I know for sure is that it’s gonna kill me to wait until March to figure out what’s actually going on.

[kfchimera]

If this were an alternate universe where Neal and Hook escaped together, then why does Hook not have more grey to age him up the way MJR’s hair looks like it does? Maybe it is just the light in one picture.

We do not know, but it is the leading guess that Pan helped Bae to land where he did to meet Emma.   We could be wrong about how that happened.

I think also it could be different sequences they are shooting, that are set in entirely different times and places.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

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I hadn’t really noticed the hair, but it does look like maybe they’ve greyed it up a bit? Could also just be the light though? Maybe it’s got a crazy amount of product in it, and it’s glowing in the sun? 😆


I don’t think he and Hook escaped NL together though, I think Bae left first, so I guess it’d still fit in the headcanon I’ve got going on if he left a lot earlier than Hook, and has been aging in FTL for some time, and so now looks older than Hook, who only arrived back in FTL much more recently.

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[Slurpeez]

Remember that book that Jennifer Morrison was carrying around downtown Vancouver, BC? Well, she tweeted about it, so perhaps it offers a clue about the context of what Emma is up to in NYC.

Synopsis:

A young boy in New York City, Theo Decker, miraculously survives an accident that takes the life of his mother. Alone and determined to avoid being taken in by the city as an orphan, Theo scrambles between nights in friends’ apartments and on the city streets. He becomes entranced by the one thing that reminds him of his mother, a small, mysteriously captivating painting that soon draws Theo into the art underworld..

Perhaps Emma relates to this tale because she is like an orphan herself, and after age 16, it sounds like she ran away from the foster care system. Perhaps she was even homeless for a time, until she stole Neal’s stolen car.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[Lauren]

Ive got a theory about the ftl…

The potion hook tries giving emma is like a sleeping curse but where they go to a dream world And they do it to put neal to sleep so the authorities think hes dead an hook an emma can get him out hook gives it to emma but maybe emma refuses to use it so hook gets arrested an gives it to bae who takes it an thats when this dream sequence happens … now hooks actions can be perceived by either ship ie selfish wants neal out the way.. to test whether what they have is true love or what I hope selflessly knowing that true love an emma will wake him..

#BOOM #Swanfire #Always #Pancakes #Haven #Fate

[RumplesGirl]

The more I think about this AU thing and the potential it could have for a Neal centric ep, the more interesting I find it. People who don’t like Neal hold it against him that he didn’t try to stay with Emma, and still get her to break the Curse somehow. People who do like Neal say that there was really no way that he could have stayed and still had the Curse broken. He left her to fulfill her destiny, so that fate could take its course. If he’d tried to defy fate by staying, then “terrible things” (Adam’s words) would have happened. As much as I’d love to see an AU that shows what exactly those “terrible things” would have been, I think that a similar message could be conveyed if we see him defy fate in how/when he got out of NL, and they show the affect it would have had. Moral of the story would still be the same: when Nealfire defies fate, things don’t work out like they were supposed to.

I do agree that it’s Neal centric but I think it’s going to have more to do with his relationship with Emma and Rumple than any freakish mix and match of TL couples.

Still very confused about Hook on that horse. Is he in two places at once? Does he find someone to get out of NYC and go in search of everyone else? The fact that he has guards with them makes me think that he wasn’t with the rest of the gang originally. Like he has been trying to find them. Or maybe the guards are there originally cause all the characters are having a picnic outside and then Hook rides up and everyone is nervous? Also, do we have confirmation about the crest on the horse? Is it King George’s?

 

Can I say that I’m really happy to have the Dwarves there? I’ve missed Team7

Also, as a humerous aside: all the regulars got new outfits! Except Hook. Poor Colin. He’s doomed to be in those leathers for the rest of time, isn’t he?

 

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

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