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Nothing is impossible on OUAT. Everything has a way of repeating itself. Keeper of the Keeper tread: https://oncepodcast.com/forums/topic/official-keeper-thread-3/#post-217924
The biker gang logo on the motorcyclist’s back looks like the White Rabbit Geronimo Jackson bumper sticker on the yellow bug’s back window.
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Nothing is impossible on OUAT. Everything has a way of repeating itself. Keeper of the Keeper tread: https://oncepodcast.com/forums/topic/official-keeper-thread-3/#post-217924
The Evil Regals & OutlawQueen’s Response:
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
I wouldn’t blame Marian for being a little shocked/disgusted/angry at Regina. Regina did sort of murder Marian then hook up with Marian’s husband. Whilst neither Regina or Robin were aware of this at the time, the facts still remain, Regina killed Marian then usurped Marian’s place in Robin and Roland’s lives.
This is where the rapidly quick progression of OutlawQueen has potentially damaged the story between Regina/Robin/Marian IMO. At the moment it looks like Marian is going to be presented as a villain for coming between OQ and upsetting Regina (despite Regina having murdered her), Robin is going to look like a douchebag for either ditching Marian for her murderer or ditching Regina for his newly returned wife. Regina is probably the only one who is going to come out of this in a good light because how dare the woman that she had killed come back and screw things up for poor little Regina.
Had OQ’s progression ended with the OQ kiss then Marian came back (instead of OQ sleeping together at Granny’s) then you could feel bad for Regina because when she’d finally opened herself up to love and thought she had a second chance at love, it was snatched away at the last second by her past actions coming back to haunt her. Robin wouldn’t look like such a douchebag because OQ wouldn’t have gotten “serious” quite yet so him going back to Marian wouldn’t make him look like such a jerk to Regina (and he’d probably realise that what he and Marian had isn’t the same anymore and that he was happier with Regina) Robin and Marian could separate amicably without the whole blowout of “Robin is leaving his wife for her murderer”, and Marian wouldn’t be presented as a villain just because she showed up alive.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of Felix
Aside from the “Heritage Trail” bit, I can also make out “Storybrooke Priory’s Laughing gargoyle has been (something)”
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixI wouldn’t blame Marian for being a little shocked/disgusted/angry at Regina. Regina did sort of murder Marian then hook up with Marian’s husband. Whilst neither Regina or Robin were aware of this at the time, the facts still remain, Regina killed Marian then usurped Marian’s place in Robin and Roland’s lives. Had OQ’s progression ended with the OQ kiss then Marian came back (instead of OQ sleeping together at Granny’s) then you could feel bad for Regina because when she’d finally opened herself up to love and thought she had a second chance at love, it was snatched away at the last second by her past actions coming back to haunt her.
Just to throw this out there….Thanks to Emma….History was rewritten, so Marian was never executed. Only us as viewers know Regina executed her, but everyone in SB doesn’t know, and would have never known even if Emma had left Marian. Robin would have thought Marian’s death was on him, and said nothing else of it, and OutlawQueen would be in “Problem Free/Always Adventurous Zone”.
History is rewritten, Marian was NEVER killed Now! And so it’s not on Regina’s hands…just Marian’s capture(Something Marian herself maybe responsible. Why help the fugitive who you know the Evil Queen is looking for, and kill if you help?)
(Takes off OutlawQueen’s Glasses) Even though they did move swift, they were always meant to be!
(Puts back on Outlaw Queen Glasses)
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
I wouldn’t blame Marian for being a little shocked/disgusted/angry at Regina. Regina did sort of murder Marian then hook up with Marian’s husband. Whilst neither Regina or Robin were aware of this at the time, the facts still remain, Regina killed Marian then usurped Marian’s place in Robin and Roland’s lives
True. Regins was like the Hitler of the EF….and now she is like, marian’s child’s Stepmama almost overnight. I dont think anyone can be mad at Marian for being mortified.
This is where the rapidly quick progression of OutlawQueen has potentially damaged the story between Regina/Robin/Marian IMO. At the moment it looks like Marian is going to be presented as a villain for coming between OQ and upsetting Regina (despite Regina having murdered her), Robin is going to look like a douchebag for either ditching Marian for her murderer or ditching Regina for his newly returned wife. Regina is probably the only one who is going to come out of this in a good light because how dare the woman that she had killed come back and screw things up for poor little Regina.
Well I dont think Robim would be considered a bad guy for leaving Regina for his wife. Like you said, their relationship did sort of happened kind of quick. Its the whole fairy dust, true love thing that makes it odd. If the fairy dust tells truth and Robin is Reginas true love then leaving her for Marian basically puts him in a false relationship which is bad. But if he stays with Regina and leaves Marian then he’s..well kind of a douche… So yeah… Talk about a dilemma. But hey thats good drama for ya 😀 never saw this kind of thing before.
and Marian wouldn’t be presented as a villain just because she showed up alive.
But Marian isn’t doing anything wrong. I dont think A&E are gonna show her as a villain, its not her fault Emma saved her, and if she pursues Robin, that’s not bad either since he was just her husband like a day ago (in her mind ) and the only way I would say Marian is a villian is if she actually tries to kill Regina or doesn’t accept Robins decision if he does decide to leave her. If he leaves she has to get over it but still stay in her sons life.
History is rewritten, Marian was NEVER killed
Well, while she may have never Been killed, to everyone who knew her, she was still taken off by Regina and never seen again after that, so to them their thoughts were still the same. Everyone still THOUGHT Regina killed her. Only we as the viewers knows it didn’t happen anymore. Does that make sense? @.@ time travel is weird. This is honestly a situation where NO ONE is gonna end up happy. My biggest bet is that the timeline will fix itself and Marian will die again at some point like a Final Destination type thing. She escaped death so death is gonna come back for her. Or more specifically/hopefully Hades will show up in Storybrooke
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
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I believe Lana confirmed that Regina did know she killed Robin’s wife (before Emma went back in time). So I highly doubt Robin would have forgiven her for murdering his wife & the mother of his only child, had he found out & tbh it would make Regina seem like she hadnt really changed all that much if she didnt confess to him it was HER fault Marian was dead- after all if you truly love someone you dont just let them go on believing they are responsible for the death of their loved one, when you know full well they are not- esp if it was you that did the killing! :/
I agree that now in the altered timeline, Regina never murdered Marian, so she doesnt have the actual memory of murdering her, only of locking her up with intention of murdering her- Both Marian & Emma know that EQ was going to murder her, so for them it is still “reality”. In fact bringing her to the future may have given OQ a chance it may not have otherwise had when the truth came out- Forgiving someone for locking your wife up is one thing, forgiving them for murdering her is another 😉 Which is why, as much as I LOVE OQ, I also agree with much of POM post too (although it was VERY refreshing to see one couple happily in love for a change lol 😛 ).
Robin would have thought Marian’s death was on him, and said nothing else of it, and OutlawQueen would be in “Problem Free/Always Adventurous Zone”.
I believe Lana confirmed that Regina did know she killed Robin’s wife (before Emma went back in time). So I highly doubt Robin would have forgiven her for murdering his wife & the mother of his only child, had he found out & tbh it would make Regina seem like she hadnt really changed all that much if she didnt confess to him it was HER fault Marian was dead- after all if you truly love someone you dont just let them go on believing they are responsible for the death of their loved one, when you know full well they are not- esp if it was you that did the killing! :/
I agree that now in the altered timeline, Regina never murdered Marian, so she doesnt have the actual memory of murdering her, only of locking her up with intention of murdering her- Both Marian & Emma know that EQ was going to murder her, so for them it is still “reality”. In fact bringing her to the future may have given OQ a chance it may not have otherwise had when the truth came out- Forgiving someone for locking your wife up is one thing, forgiving them for murdering her is another
Which is why, as much as I LOVE OQ, I also agree with much of POM post too (although it was VERY refreshing to see one couple happily in love for a change lol 
).Actually Lana said that Lana knew about it, and used that information to fuel her scenes with Robin. Regina didn’t know.
Actually Lana said that Lana knew about it, and used that information to fuel her scenes with Robin. Regina didn’t know.
Oh, is that what she said- I stand corrected then. However it doesnt change Emma going back in time & finding out about Regina murdering Robin’s wife- even if she hadnt rescued Marian, the truth would have eventually come out- Carrying a secret like that would have eaten Emma up, she would have at least had to confide in Snow/Charming or Regina. So one way or the other, the truth would have come out eventually, at least this way Marian is alive & kicking, so the worst thing Regina did was throw her in prison, which is still waaaaay more forgivable than murder IMO 😉
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