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Probably Rumple and Regina will “succeed” in getting what they thought they wanted only to discover it wasn’t what they’d wanted after all.
Speaking of Rumple, where’s he at in this AU? Did he let Belle’s kiss break the Dark One Curse? Is he even in FTL, or has he found a way to our word and is enjoying a life with Bae? Did he never become the Dark One at all, and he and Bae lived full lives and died centuries ago? If so, who’s the Dark One instead of him?
[adrotate group="5"]It seems like Rumple and Regina’s desire to force the Author to rewrite their stories is ill-fated, as Geppetto warned.
I’m not sure Regina wants to force the Author to rewrite her story. Keep in mind the Author or the Sorcerer sent Robin Hood the alternate page 23. Why would he do that if he felt like Regina was going about getting her happy ending by force?
She was also very humble when she asked the Blue Fairy for help. I think the reason Regina gets her AU and Rumple doesn’t is because she DID go about everything the right way. I just think about how smug Rumple was in the scene in Heroes and Villains in Regina’s car at the town line. He thought he had it all figured out.
Who knows. Maybe in the AU Regina is never forced into marrying Leopold at all. Maybe Snow’s mother remains a brat and she’s the one who kills Leopold and because she’s raised Snow to be bad as well, they throw a party instead of his funeral. Maybe Snow marries James instead of Charming. Or maybe Regina’s the one who gets set up with Charming after James still dies, and then Robin comes along to rob their carriage. Maybe Charming stays on the farm and there’s this Marian girl who lives on the next farm over and they end up together. They could do just about anything. PS. Welcome to the forum.
Ha! Well, we at least know Regina is the Queen since…fancy carriage.
PPS. Thanks!
I’m not sure Regina wants to force the Author to rewrite her story. Keep in mind the Author or the Sorcerer sent Robin Hood the alternate page 23. Why would he do that if he felt like Regina was going about getting her happy ending by force?
Regina’s own choice of words in the start of S4 was “force” — that is what she said to Sidney Glass. Now whether Regina has changed her tune, on account of Henry, is another matter. However, my meaning is broader. Regina’s entire notion of getting the Author to rewrite her story is as ill-fated as Rumple’s, whether or not the desire is pure or selfish. Here is my reasoning behind that statement. If Regina had walked into the tavern and met Robin Hood, neither Roland nor Henry would exist, meaning Robin and Regina would’ve missed out on being parents to those particular children. Robin never would’ve married Marian and had Roland. Regina never would’ve cast the dark curse, meaning Emma wouldn’t have come to this world, met Neal, or had Henry. These children simply wouldn’t exist. So while Regina might get what she thought she wanted (i.e. Robin Hood), she would be missing out on being the adoptive mother of Henry. So for every pro, there would be a con. Not being a mother to Henry, and Henry never having been born in this AU, sounds like an unhappy ending, rather than a joyous one for Regina.
Speaking of Rumple, where’s he at in this AU? Did he let Belle’s kiss break the Dark One Curse? Is he even in FTL, or has he found a way to our word and is enjoying a life with Bae? Did he never become the Dark One at all, and he and Bae lived full lives and died centuries ago? If so, who’s the Dark One instead of him?
That’s a really interesting question. If I had to guess, I think Rumple’s happy ending would, by his own admission, include his son. Presumably, Rumple would’ve gone with Bae to A Land Without Magic. I don’t think Rumple would’ve given up becoming the Dark One though, because he did that to protect Baalfire in the first place from getting killed in the Ogre’s War. But Rumple going through the portal in the first place would’ve meant that he never went back on his deal, meaning his son wouldn’t have grown up fatherless. Also, that would mean Baelfire and Rumple are dead in the AU, and that Baelfire never became Neal, never met Emma, and never fathered Henry. It would also mean that Rumple never met Belle, because he would’ve left the Enchanted Forest centuries before she was ever born.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
So for every pro, there would be a con. Not being a mother to Henry, and Henry never having been born in this AU, sounds like an unhappy ending, rather than a joyous one for Regina.
I do agree with this. At some point Regina said she was at her happiest when it was just her, Henry, Robin and Roland, but there is no way that happiness would have happened if Regina and Robin followed what happened on the alternate Page 23.
I think the ultimate point for Regina will be its not about happy endings but about happy moments. You can not maintain a constant state of perfect. There is no one person or thing or being that can grant you that reality. Which I think is a great premise and will make for great TV.
I just had a thought. If Rumple manages to corrupt Emma so that her heart becomes dark, then that would qualify her as a villain. I wonder what her happy ending would even look like. Would Emma have even been born in this AU? Regina not casting the dark curse means Snow and Charming may never have even met. Snow and Charming not meeting sounds more plausible than them getting together, because they’re heroes, and in this AU it sounds like the villains get a happy ending at the expense of the heroes.
If Emma somehow does manage to have been born in this AU in virtue of her becoming a villain, would her happy ending include having been born and raised in the Enchanted Forest by her parents? Yet, that still sounds like Snow and Charming’s idea of a happy ending, and they’re “heroes” so that doesn’t quite add up if only villains get their happy ending in this AU. Plus, Emma growing up in the Enchanted Forest would mean she never went to A Land Without Magic, never met Neal, and again, never had Henry, which is actually an unhappy for Emma as much as it is for Regina. Not being a mom to Henry doesn’t sound like the happy ending Emma envisioned for herself in 3×12 when she was just enjoying being a single mom to Henry.
Also, Emma wouldn’t have met Hook, because he would’ve been dead centuries ago by the time Emma was born. Hook wouldn’t have gone back to Neverland to seek revenge, meaning he would’ve aged normally and died a long time ago. Rumple going to A Land Without Magic with Baelfire means that Hook would’ve happily have lived out his days with Milha aboard his pirate ship. In this AU, Hook’s idea of a happy ending wouldn’t be Emma, but Milha, because she probably wouldn’t’ have been killed by Rumple in the first place.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I just had a thought. If Rumple manages to corrupt Emma so that her heart becomes dark, then that would qualify her as a villain.
But does having a dark heart automatically make you a villain? Since this show is all about redemption, despite your past dark deeds, Emma would have to Do something villain-y to then turn into a villain. Which sort of makes the whole ‘oh Emma has to have a dark heart’ thing sort of wonky.
And really where did Rumple get that information? Does Rumple know who the Author is, but just doesn’t know where he is?
But does having a dark heart automatically make you a villain? Since this show is all about redemption, despite your past dark deeds, Emma would have to Do something villain-y to then turn into a villain. Which sort of makes the whole ‘oh Emma has to have a dark heart’ thing sort of wonky.
Ursula revealed to Hook that Rumple’s plan included darkening Emma’s heart forever. I don’t personally buy into this idea of Black Swan. I feel like Emma being labeled this way is being done to make the villains look better by comparison. I just hope Emma doesn’t become corrupted. Emma’s likeability was directly linked to her ability to overcome adversity and still choose goodness. Out of all the characters, Emma has perhaps some of the greatest reason to turn towards darkness (i.e. abandonment and feeling unloved), but she didn’t continue in a life of crime.
And really where did Rumple get that information? Does Rumple know who the Author is, but just doesn’t know where he is?
Who knows? Maybe Rumple foresaw it with his seer skills. Yet, Maleficent also knew about Emma having the heart with the darkest potential. So maybe it’s part of some prophesy. Or maybe it’s just a plot point that won’t be further addressed.
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Well, she’s suspiciously dressed all in black. No evil cleavage though 🙂 Think that might be a prerequisite for villainy on this show.
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