Who is Michael Raymond-James going to be?

[Slurpeez]

And what’s up with that stranger in New York who receives a Storybrooke postcard that simply reads, “Broken”?

I think the important question to ask is who sent the postcard to the stranger indicating the curse is broken? I think it has to be Mr. Gold/Rumple, because he knew the curse would be broken when the Savior kissed her son, and he was working to bring magic to our world for a reason we’ve yet to learn. I’m not sure if this MRJ character, the new mysterious stranger, is Baelfire, but it’d be an interesting twist if Mr. Gold/Rumpel has already found him via a magic postal service that delivers a letter to whomever you wish, regardless of whether you know the address. I like the way Phee put it: “Rain, hail, shine or purple smoke, the SB mail will still get through.”

In Storybrooke, the Charmings prevent the town from lynching Regina and even team, reluctantly, to stop the wraith from killing Regina.

Also, I really want to know exactly why Rumple needed a Wraith. He didn’t know Belle was still alive until just last episode, and it seems like he’d been planning to bring magic to SB since FTL when he had PC put the egg containing the love potion into the dragon. So, Rumple needing the wraith to kill Regina has to be a side-plot for revenge that he came up with on the spot. He must have some other ultimate goal for using the Wraith that we’ve yet to learn.

This goes very badly for two members of this party – and that flashback I referred to? – maybe it’s not a flashback at all.

😮 The two members of the party, the Charmings, are Emma and Snow White! Perhaps this is Mr. Gold’s intention, to send Emma out of our world and into FTL past. The “flash-back” of Prince Phillip, Mulan, and Aurora turns out to be the present for Emma and SW!

On the topic of spoilers, has anyone else noticed what is growing in Mr. Gold’s pawn shop on the “Untold Stories” FB ap? Jack’s magic beanstalk. 🙂

[surayya]

The wraith could be how he ‘gets around’ his promise to Belle.

His thinking would be ‘well if I get someone else to do it, it wasn’t technically me doing the harming’ lol :p

Hope your head is feeling better Phee 🙂

[Phee]

@slurpeez108 wrote:

And what’s up with that stranger in New York who receives a Storybrooke postcard that simply reads, “Broken”?

I think the important question to ask is who sent the postcard to the stranger saying that the dark curse is broken?

I’ve been trying to think of who in SB would be in a position to be sending postcards to someone in the outside world. It’d have to be a character who knew that the outside world existed as a separate world, of sorts, to SB. Obviously, everyone in SB knew the world existed, but they didn’t know that SB was unique and cut off from everywhere else by the curse.

We can rule out Emma and Henry, because though she was well aware of the outside world and the people in it, she’s a bit preoccupied and unlikely to be sending postcards, and Henry knew no one in the outside world to be sending postcards to.

Regina knew about the outside world all along, so may well have the knowledge and motivation to contact someone out there.

Rumple recently gained knowledge of the outside world, and his purpose for casting the curse was to search for Bae in the world without magic. If he’d tracked him down, he may be the one sending this message.

But my guess as to who sent it, (and I’ve only just come up with this idea as I’ve been typing this post, coz up until a minute ago I’d thought only Regina or Rumple were candidates, but suddenly my mind is racing) is Blue Fairy…

I’ve thought that she retained her memories, because she could hardly let the infant Saviour go into a strange new world without keeping tabs on her. In a moment of crackpot theorising, I wondered if Blue may have manipulated events in Emma’s life, INCLUDING Henry’s very conception, and his coming to SB. Did she somehow set this all up, right down to Emma having ended up in jail, so she was in a position to have to give the baby up? Did Blue NEED Emma to have this offspring in SB, purely so that when the time came, there’d be someone who believed and would go get her and make her believe?

At the time, I thought perhaps that was giving Blue a bit too much credit, if I’m saying she manipulated all the significant events in Emma’s life. But what if she did? What if Henry’s dad has always been fully aware of his origins in a magical land? What if he knew Blue Fairy, because they’d met in said magical land? So when she contacted him in our world, under the guise of Mother Superior, and told him he had to go to Emma and make with the baby making, he was willing to play along, because she told him the whole story of them being trapped? What if she said, “We’re here because your papa created a curse, so you’re already involved, and this is a part you can play to ensure that in 10 years time, the curse gets broken. When that happens, I’ll send you a sign, and you can come and be reunited with your papa…and your son.”

So now the curse is broken, and she’s sending him the message that it’s happened, on a postcard with the name of the place he has to come to to find his family.

I’ve never been committed to team Bae-is-Henry’s-baby-daddy, but with a scenario like that one, it’d fit kind of perfectly for him to be Bae. And the more I think about Blue, the more diabolical I think she may turn out to be, so I wouldn’t put that sort of manipulation past her.

In Storybrooke, the Charmings prevent the town from lynching Regina and even team, reluctantly, to stop the wraith from killing Regina.

Also, I really want to know exactly why Rumple needed a Wraith. He didn’t know Belle was still alive until just last episode, and it seems like he’d been planning to bring magic to SB since FTL when he had PC put the egg containing the love potion into the dragon. So, Rumple needing the wraith to kill Regina has to be a side-plot for revenge that he came up with on the spot. He must have some other ultimate goal for using the Wraith that we’ve yet to learn.

We’re assuming the Wraith is a minion of Rumple’s, because we know the Wraith had a medallion, which Rumple has in the promos. But maybe this Wraith is just some kind of rogue that was unleashed as a result of magic being back, and not necessarily sent by Rumple. Maybe he’ll even be convinced to help protect Regina, and he’ll use the medallion to control the Wraith somehow? I know, sounds ridiculous that Rumple would try to save Regina, but it’d be a test and a turning point for him, if Belle has all but begged him to not go after Regina for revenge. If he’s then presented with a situation where he can either let the Wraith finish her off, or show some mercy and help her, it’d score him points with Belle if he chose the latter.

I found the next sentence of the article interesting too:

In Storybrooke, the Charmings prevent the town from lynching Regina and even team, reluctantly, to stop the wraith from killing Regina. This goes very badly for two members of this party – and that flashback I referred to? – maybe it’s not a flashback at all.

Would those two members of the party be Snow and Emma, and whatever happens here, causes whatever happens to send them wherever (and whenever) they go.

@Surayya wrote:

Hope your head is feeling better Phee 🙂

It was…until I started typing this post. 😆

[Slurpeez]

I love all the crackpot theorizing, Phee! You’re amongst friends on this forum. 🙂

Phee wrote: I’ve never been committed to team Bae-is-Henry’s-baby-daddy, but with a scenario like that one, it’d fit kind of perfectly for him to be Bae. And the more I think about Blue, the more diabolical I think she may turn out to be, so I wouldn’t put that sort of manipulation past her.

Nice theory about the Blue Fairy being the ones to keep tabs on Emma’s whereabouts. I’d always assumed it was Mr. Gold who was doing that, since he procured Henry for Regina and she accused him of wanting Emma to come to SB. Now, I’m wondering if it was the Blue Fairy who put Mr. Gold up to choosing Henry for Regina, since Eddy and Adam confirmed Mr. Gold didn’t get his memories back until he heard the name “Emma” in the pilot. It’s always been an area of confusion for me, and I’m hoping they clarify this in S2. Exactly who is responsible for Emma Swan’s baby showing up in SB? I like the idea of the Blue Fairy out-manouvring the great manipulator, Rumplestiltksin. She had this secretly gleeful look in The Return when she gave Baelfire the magic bean to send him and Rumpel to our world. Fairies are also known in legend to be tricksters. (A good example of this is Tinker Belle in Peter Pan when she tried to have the Lost Boys shoot down the “Wendy-bird.”)

Also, I was never on the band-wagon with the Baelfire=Henry’s dad either, but all arrows are pointing in that direction. The beanstalk shows up in SB. The last time we saw Baelfire, he used a magic bean to come to our world. The recent image of Henry in a fairy-tale costume that greatly resembles Baelfire’s clothing seems to be more than a mere coincidence. In one shot, Henry was dressed like his mom, the town sheriff. It’d be interesting if Henry were dressed like his dad, Baelfire, in the other shot. Also, we saw Emma Swan dressed like her mom in SW’s fur vest, and dressed like her dad, PC, in his armor. It’s an intriguing parallel. I love all of these family ties. 🙂

I have my own hair-brained theory starting to develop as I type. I think there’s another potential candidate for who could’ve sent the postcard. What if August sent the postcard to the new mysterious stranger, MRJ’s character (aka potentially Baelfire)? If the newly-introduced magic manages to re-animate August as either a walking, talking puppet, or he becomes a real man again, it could happen. A popular theory is that Baelfire and August must’ve known each other in our world, because August knew to call Mr. Gold “papa,” which Baelfire called his dad. Also, August asked Mr. Gold the rhetorical question, “Do I even look anything like him [Bae]?”. August could’ve known what Baelfire looks like if they met before. Moreover, August also knew about the knife and its power, which Baelfire knew about, in addition to Rumple. Next, August knew how to add pages to the storybook, yet he’s not the author of the book. What if Baelfire is the book’s author and he taught August to be his apprentice? Also, there is a connection between August and Baelfire in that they both sought the help of the Blue Fairy/Mother Superior, and both consequently ended up in our world. Finally, in The Return, August went to Mother Superior for council about his father, and yet the Blue Fairy was intentionally vague about the identity of August’s dad when Mr. Gold came calling. The Blue Fairy and August must’ve been in cahoots together trying to fool Mr. Gold into believe August was Baelfire and getting the knife. There are so many potential connections between August and Baelfire that I think they must know each other or at least know of each other through the Blue Fairy.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[antbee]

Maybe he is just in New York and not necessarily Coney Island.

I hope that’s what the clue meant because there’s less of a chance that Bae’s a carny then. (I really, really don’t like that idea even if it makes sense.)

@slurpeez108 wrote:

And what’s up with that stranger in New York who receives a Storybrooke postcard that simply reads, “Broken”?

I think the important question to ask is who sent the postcard to the stranger indicating the curse is broken? I think it has to be Mr. Gold/Rumple, because he knew the curse would be broken when the Savior kissed her son, and he was working to bring magic to our world for a reason we’ve yet to learn. I’m not sure if this MRJ character, the new mysterious stranger, is Baelfire, but it’d be an interesting twist if Mr. Gold/Rumpel has already found him via a magic postal service that delivers a letter to whomever you wish, regardless of whether you know the address. I like the way Phee put it: “Rain, hail, shine or purple smoke, the SB mail will still get through.”

Wow, so many more things to ponder about now. I would guess that Rumple sent the magical postcard too, but then again, if Bae has never been to Storybrooke or has any idea that his dad brought everyone here but they’re trapped by his dad’s evil curse, how would he know what the postcard meant?

Regina knew about the outside world all along, so may well have the knowledge and motivation to contact someone out there.

Yes, I definitely agree that after Emma told her about the father being out there, she probably had Sydney find out who he was when he dug up all that dirt about Emma. So she definitely knows his name I think, but I’m not sure if she’s ever written him yet. She might have started writing to him right before magic was released and before Emma agreed to leave town, to let him know about Henry and how Emma turned her own son against her and now is trying to take him back, to try to lure him to town, but she’s probably not behind the postcard. I could see her saying something like, “if you agree to testify against Emma for me or to work on my behalf to keep custody of Henry, there will be some kind of monetary payment involved, or I’ll let you have access to Henry.”

But my guess as to who sent it, (and I’ve only just come up with this idea as I’ve been typing this post, coz up until a minute ago I’d thought only Regina or Rumple were candidates, but suddenly my mind is racing) is Blue Fairy…

She’s a good candidate, but I’m still unclear if they’ll actually make her the puppet-master all along. Personally, I think it would be a good twist, but there really hasn’t been a solid evidence that she has been. There’s certainly a lot of circumstantial evidence, imo, but that could just be written off as her not being perfect like the rest of the characters.

At the time, I thought perhaps that was giving Blue a bit too much credit, if I’m saying she manipulated all the significant events in Emma’s life. But what if she did? What if Henry’s dad has always been fully aware of his origins in a magical land? What if he knew Blue Fairy, because they’d met in said magical land? So when she contacted him in our world, under the guise of Mother Superior, and told him he had to go to Emma and make with the baby making, he was willing to play along, because she told him the whole story of them being trapped? What if she said, “We’re here because your papa created a curse, so you’re already involved, and this is a part you can play to ensure that in 10 years time, the curse gets broken. When that happens, I’ll send you a sign, and you can come and be reunited with your papa…and your son.”

I could believe that she’s behind a lot of things including finding Henry to bring him to Storybrooke, but as a fan of Baelfire/Emma being each other one true love’s, I would hope he wouldn’t have agree to doing something like this even if he thought it was for the greater good. It would be an interesting twist, but I don’t think I’d ever like the adult version of Bae if he could agree to a plan like that.

I have my own hair-brained theory starting to develop as I type. I think there’s another potential candidate for who could’ve sent the postcard. What if August sent the postcard to the new mysterious stranger, MRJ’s character (aka potentially Baelfire)? If the newly-introduced magic manages to re-animate August as either a walking, talking puppet, or he becomes a real man again, it could happen.

I’m not sure if he’ll be a puppet that can walk and talk, but it seems he’ll be stuck in puppet form for awhile since Eion Bailey hasn’t been seen at all, and the producers seemed to indicate that in one of their most recent interviews. This theory makes the most sense to be though right now because I believe that they know each other, so then Bae would know what a postcard from Storybrooke saying “Broken” meant. However, if August did send Bae the postcard, I’m guessing that Bae thinks that August helped break the Curse by getting Emma to believe and was able to destroy Rumple’s Dagger. So he’s probably not going to be too happy when he finds out the reality that August failed, and that his father brought magic to this world unless he can already sense it when he gets the postcard. Of course, he can’t stay mad at August too long because August will most likely still be in puppet form when the meet again, I think.

Onto the Wraith now,

Also, I really want to know exactly why Rumple needed a Wraith. He didn’t know Belle was still alive until just last episode, and it seems like he’d been planning to bring magic to SB since FTL when he had PC put the egg containing the love potion into the dragon. So, Rumple needing the wraith to kill Regina has to be a side-plot for revenge that he came up with on the spot. He must have some other ultimate goal for using the Wraith that we’ve yet to learn.

Yes, I wonder what it is, and I’ll wonder if it will backfire on him not just with Belle but perhaps with Bae too. I think that the Wraith is behind Regina seeing Daniel around, and then this quote from Lana,

The press hasn’t heard about him?
No — his fairytale identity will be revealed … that person I’ve been linked to, which is really interesting. Mystery, mystery man,

, makes me wonder when Bae comes into town, that she’s going to mistake him for a reincarnation of Daniel or something (I know the actors don’t look alike), for some reason like his name being similar or something. I don’t for see a love triangle or anything, but I wonder how much more angst that would add to Rumple’s situation if his son starts being pursued by Regina because of something he brought to this world. There’s so many ways they could go with everything though.

[faux pax]

Where is this postcard everyone keeps talking about? is it a new promo i haven’t seen yet or somehing? Could someone hook me up with a link or somehting?

[surayya]

@Faux Pax wrote:

Where is this postcard everyone keeps talking about? is it a new promo i haven’t seen yet or somehing? Could someone hook me up with a link or somehting?

Yeah I’m clueless on the postcard as well, so you are not alone there lol 😉

I think Phee’s Blue Fairy theory could work too (I just feel her motives are different 😉 ).

I keep saying she’s not a ‘baddie’ because every action she’s taken seems to be for the good of the Enchanted Forest/FTL, rather than anyone person/people- she works on a very large scale 😆

So to me it makes sense that if she could find away to keep her memory intact, she could ensure that Enchanted Forest/FTL would be restored via Emma- in essence she’d be protecting FTL.

I don’t see BF as a semi evil/conniving character, in fact I see her as a good being whom will do what is required for the “greater” good- it may step on some individual/s toes, but in the end its for the good of their world/land & all in general 🙂

[surayya]

Oh I just thought up a crazy theory 😉
What if August told BF what was going on out side of SB?!
Even if she didn’t know about curse etc already, he could have worded it in such away that he didn’t sound like he’d just escaped from the loony bin, yet she would know exactly what it was about & who to contact afterwards.

The thing that kind of points to her maybe actually knowing what was happening is August going to her for help-he could have gone to Archie, but he chose to go with BF, which is an odd choice given her SB occupation IMO- unless of course he was really just there for confession??? 😐

[Slurpeez]

AntBee » September 28, 2012, 10:54 pm

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/entertainment/love_that_tv/?p=1267

A new spoiler possibly explaining the Lou Reed “Charley’s Girl” hint that was given,
And what’s up with that stranger in New York who receives a Storybrooke postcard that simply reads, “Broken”?

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[surayya]

OMG! I just re-watched s01e19 with my TV set to clear voice & blow me down- it seems like BF did at least have some idea of what’s going on in SB after all! 😮
So Phee; I doff my hat to you, you may well be pretty darn close to being bang on! I just think she & August are in it together now 😀

August’s conversation with BF goes something like this:
August “I understand (that’s how it has to happen- these + a few more words in the middle of the sentence afterwards, are drowned out by the score & I cant quite make them out 🙁 ), I cant do anything while my body …”
BF “Just don’t do anything rash- Please, just tell me you’ll come to me before you think of doing anything else, then things will work out”
August ” Thank you”
BF “Oh Kay”

Now since he was keeping well away from Gep at this stage & he had just been into Rumps store/office, it follows they are talking about August trying to get the knife ….. I cant see how else it would fit, unless he was trying to get someone (aka mysterious stranger) to come to SB at that stage- but I doubt it, as he was focused almost entirely on not becoming a man puppet at this point 😉

Now I had always assumed when August called someone in the beginning of this ep, that it was Henry he he spoke to (since they are together in the next scene & August obviously knows about operation Cobra)- maybe it was in fact the BF he called or he had at least been in contact with, in order to try get results.

Looking back on it now BF said just after telling Gep things had changed, they had preparations of their own to make before the curse hit- I personally thought she was talking about the book (whom else other than the faeries would have explicit knowledge of EVERY-ONES tales) & now maybe a way for her to keep or regain her memory (much like Rumple when her heard Emma’s name)- after all she was (in the very least at one point) considered the most powerful or strongest magical being in FTL!

Now if all this this turns out to be completely wrong & I’ve read WAY too much into things …. I think I could safely bet, that I’ve just managed to edge in front for winner of ‘running amuck with a crazy theory’ stakes 😆

Does anyone with the DVD’s know if this particular conversation has subtitles? Very keen to find out the middle of the sentence I cant make out now! 😉

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