Who is Michael Raymond-James going to be?

[Slurpeez]

@ surayya: I love the detective work! Thanks for posting the part of the convo you found, and I think it corroborates the idea that August and the Blue Fairy were working together, and they both knew about the knife and Rumple’s son, Baelfire.

Surayya wrote: Does anyone with the DVD’s know if this particular conversation has subtitles? Very keen to find out the middle of the sentence I cant make out now!

Per your request, I re-watched 1×19 with subtitles from my DVD today. Unfortunately, there weren’t any subtitles for that conversation between Mother Superior and August. The subtitle simply said “indistinct” instead of what was being said. 🙁 I tried really hard to listen with head-phones, but I couldn’t make out anything much better than you already did. I think August might have said. “I understand, but that’s the whole point. I can’t do anything about it with my body like this.” I think Mother Superior may have been persuading August to stick with the plan of getting Emma to believe, but he was so anxious from turning into wood, that he wanted to get Mr. Gold’s knife and use the magic asap.

Also, I never noticed the sign in front of the convent until now. I think it reads “Sisters of Saint Melissa.” As far as I know, there is no such saint in Catholicism, although there may have been a Melissa, queen of Serbia, who may have been canonized in the Eastern Orthodox Church. Anyway, I looked up the name Melissa though, and it does have a connection to Greek mythology, as she was a nymph who cared for the infant Zeus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melissa

I’m not sure what the official religion in FTL was, but it did seem to be polytheistic, as indicated by Baeflire in 1×19 when he said, “Gods no!” and by Maurice in 1×12 and by Granny in 1×16.

[faux pax]

@slurpeez108, thanks for the link. Now I don’t feel like a few of the people got together here and decided to troll everyone else 😉 .

I am really likeing the idea of BF being more involved then we give her credit for. If Rumple can write something into the curse to give him his memories back when Emma comes to town, why can’t BF have a similar trick up her sleve? Besides, It seems like we would need a Rumple level chess master on the good side to balance it all out.

I’ve been saying for a while that if Rumple can see the future, then we need to see some limits on that. (that’s why I have been such a suporter of the Bae as Henry’s daddy theroy–Rumple got henry for Regina, which means he would have to of not known. And that would have been a BIG mistake on his part). I think it would be interesting after three or four seasons, to realize that there is someone just as sneeky as Rumple who has been pulling strings almost since the begining.

Going a little off topic, has anyone else noticed that the only characters we have seen from other relms have a connection to Regina (she spicificaly brought Jefferson here with a unique punishment and she seems close to Dr. Whale, if he is in fact Frankenstine, given how she sought him for comfort when Henry died–although recent promos may point to the fact that he doesn’t feel the same). And now we are bringing in characters like Hook, who are obviously from a diffrent land.

This kind of leds creedance to the theroy that Bae is also Jack from jack in the beanstalk theory (one that has been–pardon the pun–growing on me ove the last few days).

I read somewhere, i think this thread or possibaly the Bae thread, that this world would seem like the world of gients to someone new to it. And that maybe the Gient was something of a crime lord.

Here’s my take on it.

What if the curse effected all the realms–neverland, wonderland, ect–but only FTL was stuck in storybrook unless Regana made it a point to put someone there (like Jefferson). Now the people in the other worlds are stuck in our world, but outside storybrook like Emma and Augest.

The gient can smell the residual magic left from home on the people (fee, fy, fo, fum, i smell the blood of an english man–anyone else hear that version?) and Bae works with/for him to creat some sort of network/underground railroad type thing to help them out, possibly with BF as their connection inside Storybrook. That’s how they get intouch with Emma, the gient can smell the magic in her blood, but she gives no indication that she knows anything about one of the other worlds.

Maybe here he gets intouch with BF, and she explains who Emma is and asks him to watch over her, maybe a bit like Augest was suposed to. But he realizes that she isn’t ready to beleave, that she won’t without proof and he can’t give her proof without magic, something that isn’t here and he wouldn’t mess with even if it was. He decides to stick by her and they fall in love. (I like to think this is the Tallahise part–when she was talking to MM, it seemed like whatever henry’s dad did really hurt and i don’t think she would let a quasi one night stand get behind her walls enough to let them hurt her that much)

They hang out for a while then Bae has to do something to help someone from another relm, but it involves something illigal. Emma gets caught up in the middle of it but Bae can’t really explain it to her, not without sounding crazy. She gets caught and sent to jail and now she hates him.

What do you guys think?

[antbee]

@Faux Pax wrote:

What do you guys think?

I really like this theory. Now that I know for sure that Bae is in NYC, but unfortunately I don’t know where at this time, I was thinking about NYC and why they chose NYC in particular. I thought we’d find him in Boston because of the Beantown nickname, but I was thinking it’s certainly possible that he landed in Boston or around there, but is now living in NYC. I just wonder if they chose NYC for some reason other than it’s on the east coast and they didn’t want to use Boston again or because of some other reason. For instance, my mind immediately thinks of the New York Giants as being one of the big reasons they might have chose NYC to be where we find Bae again.

he gient can smell the residual magic left from home on the people (fee, fy, fo, fum, i smell the blood of an english man–anyone else hear that version?) and Bae works with/for him to creat some sort of network/underground railroad type thing to help them out, possibly with BF as their connection inside Storybrook. That’s how they get intouch with Emma, the gient can smell the magic in her blood, but she gives no indication that she knows anything about one of the other worlds.

Unfortunately I can’t find it right now, but I know there was a theory about the walls between worlds weakening now that Gold brought magic here, probably where he wasn’t supposed to. I think at the time, I didn’t like it only because I want them to focus on Storybrooke now, but now that I’ve thought about it, it would be a good way to prolong the show and add life to it as long as it’s done in a clever and interesting way.

Anyhow, your theory reminded me of that because there had to be other realm jumpers besides Bae at one time or another because I think they must have gave us knowledge of their magical world for us to know of their world. I hope that made sense because there was another tear jerking Bae story that I just read recently about how he ended up reading all the tales of his father that were written here, and how he feels unloved and unwanted because they never mention that Rumple had his own child. So I was thinking that hopefully the show will explore how we already know of these characters in our world if they come from some other world. It doesn’t have to be a really complicated reason or anything, they can just throw in a line or something about realm jumpers, and that’s how we have this shared knowledge of each other world’s or something like that.

Maybe here he gets intouch with BF, and she explains who Emma is and asks him to watch over her, maybe a bit like Augest was suposed to. But he realizes that she isn’t ready to beleave, that she won’t without proof and he can’t give her proof without magic, something that isn’t here and he wouldn’t mess with even if it was. He decides to stick by her and they fall in love. (I like to think this is the Tallahise part–when she was talking to MM, it seemed like whatever henry’s dad did really hurt and i don’t think she would let a quasi one night stand get behind her walls enough to let them hurt her that much)

Yes, I think it must have been more than a one night stand type of thing. Heck, I see a lot of Graham/Emma fans complaining about how the show has forgotten Graham, and that seemed like a pretty significant relationship for Emma, although I don’t think he was her true love. The fact that she spent so much time in Tallahassee and still sounds bitter about Henry’s father definitely makes it seem like there was something pretty significant there at one time.

Of course, I would prefer that he’s not too bad. I mean I’m sure he’s not a saint and because of the circumstances that lead him here, he probably didn’t have a lot of options on what to do, which lead him into doing illegal things. I just don’t want him to be too big of a jerk since the description for “Jack” sounded like he was a shady guy but not a nasty one sort of like Once Upon a Time’s own Sawyer.

[faux pax]

because I think they must have gave us knowledge of their magical world for us to know of their world.

really good point. I was just thinking something like that.

The fact that she spent so much time in Tallahassee and still sounds bitter about Henry’s father definitely makes it seem like there was something pretty significant there at one time.

A part of me is really hopeing that Bae will turn out to be Emma’s one true love. It would have a lot of symatry, i mean they are the begining and the end of the curse. And I do like the idea of Henry being a product of true love becaus so wasn’t Emma (and it seems safe to say so weren’t Snow and Charming).

I’ll admit, at first I had a lot of issues with them bringing the outside world in as well, but you’re right. If they just kept it in Storybrook forever, it would be easy to make the storylines a bit dry. Also I think haveing Bae working against the effects of the curse his entire adult life will add another level of tension between him and gold (as if we need anymore, but then again, you can never have too much angst and besides, we don’t want them patching things up too quickly, now do we?) 😉

[shery0812]

so…I’m still clueless as to who this guy might be. 😆

I haven’t been following the discussions consistently, but I do know the winning argument is that it’s Baelfire…but there’s really been no confirmation one way or another, right?

I might need to re-watch a second time, but did anyone catch any clues in the opening scenes…perhaps something in his apartment that tipped his identity off?

[faux pax]

I might need to re-watch a second time, but did anyone catch any clues in the opening scenes…perhaps something in his apartment that tipped his identity off?

As far as i know, there was no conformation either way. But i did notice something interesting in the background of his appartment. On the wall as he is comming through the door is a sigh that reads “Cleaners and Hatters.” Or something of the sort. It imeadatly made me think of some connection to Jefferson, but i have no idea what.

[hannah97]

Watched the premiere… I’m thinking he’s not Bae. Why would Bae be getting a message that the curse was broken? It seems to me like he wouldn’t know anything about Storybrooke.

[Killian Jones]

@Hannah97 wrote:

Watched the premiere… I’m thinking he’s not Bae. Why would Bae be getting a message that the curse was broken? It seems to me like he wouldn’t know anything about Storybrooke.

If he’s not Bae then it’s possible more people that were brought to reality by the curse have figured a way to be able to leave Storybrooke.

[hannah97]

@steliokontos1 wrote:

@Hannah97 wrote:

Watched the premiere… I’m thinking he’s not Bae. Why would Bae be getting a message that the curse was broken? It seems to me like he wouldn’t know anything about Storybrooke.

If he’s not Bae then it’s possible more people that were brought to reality by the curse have figured a way to be able to leave Storybrooke.

That would be cool, but I also feel like it would make things really complicated, because then there would have to be an explanation of how they left, and since they continually stated it was one of the rules of the curse that they couldn’t leave, none of the rules would really matter anymore. Maybe he’s someone who managed to come to our world before the curse? He would have to be a realm jumper, possibly the Wizard of Oz. (I’m really hoping for the Wizard of Oz to make an appearance.)

[surayya]

If he’s not Bae, I wondering if August told the kid all about Enchanted forest & everything when they were kids … he kind of looks like the kid who stole the money who August/Pino ran off with.

I did notice hanging right next to the window, a pair of what looked like clogs or moccasins on the left hand side – weird thing to be hanging in a modern man’s apartment IMO 😉

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