Who is Michael Raymond-James going to be?

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@Lil’Red wrote:

I don’t know what to think of Milha, yet. Googled the name, appears to be a mile/distance unit in Brazil. Ever time I see it, though, I think of ‘Miller’…don’t know why.

I googled it too when we got the casting call, and grumbled how the definition didn’t give us any clues. Now that you say it’s similar to “Miller” though, maybe it is a clue that she’s part of Rumple’s story. He lost Milha’s child when Bae left, so was trying to replace him with a child from a family of millers. Bit of a stretch, but it’s all I’ve got. 😛

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@Phee wrote:

I googled it too when we got the casting call, and grumbled how the definition didn’t give us any clues. Now that you say it’s similar to “Miller” though, maybe it is a clue that she’s part of Rumple’s story. He lost Milha’s child when Bae left, so was trying to replace him with a child from a family of millers. Bit of a stretch, but it’s all I’ve got. 😛

lol, well it’s not any more of a stretch than some of the theories that I have/had.

I don’t know what to think of Milha, yet. Googled the name, appears to be a mile/distance unit in Brazil. Ever time I see it, though, I think of ‘Miller’…don’t know why.

Why it makes sense that she is Rumple’s wife who abandoned her family for adventure and dashing pirates- I also wonder if there’s a connection to Regina’s story…Probably not!

Milha really does sound like Miller. I know that there’s theories floating around about Cora being Rumple’s ex, and him going after her and her daughter because of that, but I think those are very unlikely since Cora couldn’t be that old, I would think. However, it’s possible that maybe Henry (Regina’s dad) or Cora were descended from Milha, so Rumple is getting his revenge indirectly.

That reminds me of another theory I just read last night about why they haven’t shown Milha yet, and that’s because Belle is going to be her due to some time traveling. While I don’t think that’s possible at all, I guess they could have Emilie de Ravin, Lana Parilla, or Barbara Hershey be Milha, so that we connect Milha with either Belle or the Mills family. It seems too cheesy though even for this show to have Belle, Regina, or Cora be a double or almost double for Rumple’s ex, and I don’t think they would have gone to the trouble of a casting call for Milha if they were going to go that route. I thought I would throw the theory out there though just in case that’s why they’re being so secretive about who she is.

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I’m not sure about Emilie de Ravin playing her. If, in a past life, Belle abandoned her child and husband to run away with Hook – I’m not sure how I’d feel about Rumbelle anymore… I guess I’m more comfortable with Rumple’s marriage being, at best, polite. But both had another true love waiting for them. Someone from another site was ranting that Belle couldn’t be Rumple’s true love because he loved his son so much, Bae’s mother had to be his one true love. (Isn’t the show pretty clear that Rumbelle is true love!)

Leaving out the possibility that she may be Rumple’s ex and Bae’s mom, I could see this character being Cora or a Mills ancestor. I’ve even tried saying miller in a Scottish accent and keep getting ‘Mil-ha’ . I could see Cora changing her name to something grander after her deal with Rumple. Also, I’ve read theories that Jefferson may have been Cora’s first son (the one the miller’s daughter promised to Rumpelstiltskin.) If there’s any merit to that: could Jefferson be the son of Hook and Cora? Grace is the name of a famous pirate I adored as a kid….

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@Lil’Red wrote:

Someone from another site was ranting that Belle couldn’t be Rumple’s true love because he loved his son so much, Bae’s mother had to be his one true love. (Isn’t the show pretty clear that Rumbelle is true love!)

Yeah, I’d say that’s a pretty well established fact, considering her kiss was in the process of breaking his curse. I think that the love Rumple had for Bae ended up surpassing any love he’d once had for his wife.

[Slurpeez]

After a quick search on wiktionary, I discovered the the word “milha” is Portuguese for a thousand. It also means a “mile” as in a unit of measurement. Perhaps Milha travels many miles in search of adventure. Additionally, the word milha can mean maize straw. Perhaps the name could refer to her hair as being the color of straw. Finally, milha also means “chiliad” which is English for: 1. A group that contains 1,000 elements or 2. One thousand years; a millennium. We know that Rumpel is centuries old, so the Milha could have significance for her age it terms of the passage of time.

The name Beaman is a common last name of Old English origin which described one who is a “beekeeper.” It also just occurred to me that Beaman could be deciphered as “be a man.” Whereas Rumpel’s wife presumably left him for being a coward, perhaps she ran off with someone who could “be a man” in her eyes (e.g. Captain Hook).

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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that’s interesting.

[antbee]

Why do all the good spoilers seem to come out when I’m working? I have a lot to catch up on.

First, after this recent spoiler from TV Line, http://tvline.com/2012/08/21/ask-ausiello-spoilers-on-glee-once-upon-castle-revenge-greys-himym-gossip-girl-and-more/,

Something will happen this season that will ensure Mary Margaret and Emma get a lot of mother-daughter bonding time, whether they like it or not. Bonus clue: Think Lost.

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I’m definitely thinking that Michael Raymond-James is going to be Peter Pan now not Jack.

Well actually I think he’s Bae, but Bae will turn out to be Peter Pan not Jack from “Jack and the Beanstalk” like I thought. It just makes too much sense right now just like how I tried to ignore August being Pinocchio despite all the evidence that was mounting up until that reveal.

1. Captain Hook and Smee are being connected to Rumple, Bae’s dad.
2. We have pictures of a tree fort/swing set that a lot of people are speculating is a Neverland set.
3. Michael Raymond-James started filming around the third episode of the show, and his character will be someone that will be around for at least season 2.
4. Emma and Snow White might be lost like “lost boys”. From early spoiler pictures, it seems like they fell into a vortex similar to the one that Bae fell into.

Okay, it’s not really a lot of evidence, but it does seem to point towards him being Peter more than it does him being Jack right now.

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When I look back to early summer, where the creators said their favorite fairytales were Snow White and Peter Pan, I now have no idea why I didn’t assume Neverland would be HUGE in the show!

Still undecided about the whole MRJ thing, though. I really didn’t think Henry’s dad would appear 3 episodes in. But, this might actually be the perfect timing! When Emma sees Henry’s dad (be him an average joe, Baelfire, or other) the audience is going to know based on her reaction/treatment of the new stranger. With Emma and Snow having some…quality time in another realm, this might be the perfect chance for the audience and Henry to interact with the guy – setting up for all hell to break loose whenever Snow and Emma get back.

Kind of see him as Peter because I’d be shocked and excited to see where they take the story.But, honestly, there isn’t much to support this idea besides the episode focusing on Rumple, Belle, and Hook. Yeah, it kind of make sense looking at the episode but if we’ve learned anything from August it’s how long they can drag-out before a reveal or a focused episode. Knowing that he’ll be off and on through May: that leaves time to keep him a mystery.

There’s not really proof for any of the other options either, though. They’ve been very careful to keep everything about his character closed up and quiet. No pictures from set. No cast tweets talking about working with him… I haven’t even seen local fans twitters about seeing MJR popping up anywhere….sort of weird: he has been there for a week or more? Could he be shooting a lot in the green studios??? Or are they just that good at messing with us? 😆

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@Lil’Red wrote:

There’s not really proof for any of the other options either, though. They’ve been very careful to keep everything about his character closed up and quiet. No pictures from set. No cast tweets talking about working with him… I haven’t even seen local fans twitters about seeing MJR popping up anywhere….sort of weird: he has been there for a week or more? Could he be shooting a lot in the green studios??? Or are they just that good at messing with us? 😆

Yes, I have to give them a lot credit for keeping spoilers about MRJ to a minimum. I’m just worried though that it will turn into another August situation if they drag out the mystery too long, and fans ended up not liking the character because of it.

I hope that Emma and Snow return soon too because I don’t want them to be gone for over half the season. However, if they are gone for awhile, you’re right, it would give MRJ’s character plenty of time to stay on the scene as a mysterious character like Peter, Jack, and/or Bae and then reveal he’s Henry’s dad when Emma returns.

I still hope he turns out to be Jack, but I’m prepping myself for him to be Peter. Although, if he is Jack, maybe he could befriend Henry by telling him stories about what it was like for him to go through a vortex like the one that Henry’s mother and grandmother disappeared into.

Even if he’s Jack or Peter but really Bae, if Emma and Snow are traveling through time like I believe they are, I’m even more convinced now that Bae could have picked up enough knowledge about Fairy Tale Land to write Henry’s book if he went on a similar journey that Emma and Snow are on. Of course, being the writer of the book will be something else that he can bond with Henry on.

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I’m just worried though that it will turn into another August situation if they drag out the mystery too long, and fans ended up not liking the character because of it.

Since I know you are all for combinations of these identities: I don’t think it would get like August if he was presented as a fairytale counterpart, and/or Baelfire after that – and just when the audience thinks the mystery of his identity is solved: Emma returns and demands to know why he’s in town – end of an episode/ cliff hanger.

I have a feeling Emma and Snow may be gone for awhile (because, in this family, someone seems to be always needing to find the others…). Could be interesting if the pair does several realm jumps through to mid-season. Or would that start getting old? 😯 Probably would. And they have to keep us guessing about some of those doors for a few seasons: space them out and such. 😀

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