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I think it has always been possible that it would be Henry since he drove by on his bike right when Rumpel arrived. I don’t think the writers remember the whole Henry will be his undoing prophecy.
[adrotate group="5"]Actually put me in the boat that says the Guardian is either Alice or Facilier. But I am starting to get a strong feeling that Facilier is actually a good guy. His connection to the dead is too convenient considering Rumple and Belle’s predicament, and the fact that Regina keeps trusting this guy. She already was right to trust him when he said he didn’t have the dagger. But we know he wants the dagger…..so unless he just wants it for power (this is what I think Gothel wants and Facilier is trying to stop her), then he may just want the dagger so he can be the Guardian. I feel like they have left his reasoning for wanting the dagger ambiguous on purpose. This would not explain why he just doesn’t tell Rumple, but perhaps he needs Rumple to be a good person again before he takes the dark one powers from him in order to reunite with Belle. We know Rumple sacrificed himself basically to save Alice. Now, perhaps Facilier is just waiting until Rumple is ready to be able to move on to Belle. Perhaps saving his grandson from the curse and making it up to Regina is what needs to happen…..This all just seems like a ruse to get us to think Facilier is a bad guy when he is actually not. To me, Regina trusting him like this is a huge indicator that he is actually a good person but cannot reveal it yet because of reasons.
Assuming Henry is not the Guardian, I want it to be Facilier. And if he is not the Guardian, I want it to still be Alice but somehow Rumple gets rid of the immortality clause.
I think it has always been possible that it would be Henry since he drove by on his bike right when Rumpel arrived. I don’t think the writers remember the whole Henry will be his undoing prophecy.
That’s what scares me….which is too bad because if they did remember, it would be an easy way for them to say they had this planned all along which we know writers love to try and pull (they are LOST writers after all).
Well, i don’t have a problem with the end of LOST. The OUAT writers though have consistently forgotten major plot points. It is possible that they will remember the undoing thing, but that would be one in a million for them. They have consistently forgotten things that have happened in the episode right before the one they are airing which is a pretty impressive lack of organization and just general care for the story. There is absolutely no coherence of story or character on OUAT, in my opinion. It is just a random occurrence of events with characters who behave differently based on random plot points and macguffins and deus ex machinas that jump in to save the day or mess it up.
It is just going to random its way out and then end.
I liked the ending of LOST too. That’s why I’m saying maybe there is a slight chance they could successfully land this story and this ending.
I could see Henry becoming the new guardian. It would fit with him driving by on his motorcycle when Rumple went to the moment of the guardian in 7×04. This would fulfill the “boy will be your undoing” prophecy from S2 (assuming that wasn’t meant to be fulfilled with Pan – I’m hoping it wasn’t). It would seemingly make Henry immortal, which could make sense with him being the Author – although I’d think Ella would need to be made immortal too then somehow. I could also see Rumple giving his own heart to cure Nook and Alice’s problem, since Rumple’s going to die anyway. That would wrap up 2 plot threads at once.
It would seemingly make Henry immortal, which could make sense with him being the Author – although I’d think Ella would need to be made immortal too then somehow.
Yeah that’s my biggest problem with Henry-the-Guardian idea. Immortality is presented as a curse, not a blessing. I wouldn’t want that for Henry. I think someone above had the right idea; whoever the Guardian is/becomes they’ll take up the mantel without the immortality clause attached.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Actually put me in the boat that says the Guardian is either Alice or Facilier. But I am starting to get a strong feeling that Facilier is actually a good guy. His connection to the dead is too convenient considering Rumple and Belle’s predicament, and the fact that Regina keeps trusting this guy. She already was right to trust him when he said he didn’t have the dagger. But we know he wants the dagger…..so unless he just wants it for power (this is what I think Gothel wants and Facilier is trying to stop her), then he may just want the dagger so he can be the Guardian. I feel like they have left his reasoning for wanting the dagger ambiguous on purpose. This would not explain why he just doesn’t tell Rumple, but perhaps he needs Rumple to be a good person again before he takes the dark one powers from him in order to reunite with Belle. We know Rumple sacrificed himself basically to save Alice. Now, perhaps Facilier is just waiting until Rumple is ready to be able to move on to Belle. Perhaps saving his grandson from the curse and making it up to Regina is what needs to happen…..This all just seems like a ruse to get us to think Facilier is a bad guy when he is actually not. To me, Regina trusting him like this is a huge indicator that he is actually a good person but cannot reveal it yet because of reasons.
Yeah I go back and forth on this theory also. Maybe the whole thing with Facilier showing up at the shrine was to test Rumple? I mean he was definitely tempted to do the wrong thing with Alice and he could have easily have sacrificed Alice to get back to Belle. Maybe it is going to be that Facilier can take the dagger but only if Rumple proves that he is worthy of not being the dark one any longer, that he has a pure heart? So while Rumple was testing Alice, Facilier was testing Rumple?
Something just occurred to me while listening to the podcast. The Dagger was once the Grail. That means the Guardian is basically OUaT’s version of this guy:
I think that the resolution needs to be bigger and more symbolic than just passing the burden to a new guardian, even if that person gets better terms of employment than Rumpel did. One of the recurring themes throughout the series has been that a big task is too much for one person to handle alone, and that friends and allies and even former enemies will insist on being part of the team to share the burden. To me, that’s such an uplifting theme that it deserves to be the moral of the Once Upon A Time fairy tale, and so I think that the role will go to all of Storybrooke.
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