Who is the outsider?

[nonnie]

@ceege wrote:

I was hoping that the driver of the car was going to be Neal. I had not realised that the plates from from a state other than N.Y. (where Neal is from). Did we actually see the driver? Everything happened so fast, I barely had time to register what had happened.

I am hoping that the driver does not not turn out to be Bae – that would be too easy for Rumple to have his son come to him. Of course, there could always be difficulties on an emotional level, but I’m hoping for a journey here, a physical one as well as an emotional one.

Just speculation here, but I’m wondering if the accident was caused because the barrier spell works both ways – keeping Storybrook residents in, and outsiders out. He would have managed to get through presumably because when he wrote the spell, Rumple did not know about cars and how powerful they can be. Just a thought.

I thought the accident occurred because Hook, Gold and Belle are standing in the middle of the road having a fight. To drive through the darkness and come upon a bunch of people fighting in the road might cause a driver to try and swerve to try and avoid killing someone. The way people drive on my road they would have been mowed over like bowling pins.

Hook would not know what a car was, but Gold and Belle sure would since Gold had a car.

[ceege]

Hi AuntBee,

Thanks for the response. Unfortunately, I’ll have to wait a few weeks before reading it. I love how this show keeps surprising me, so I avoid spoilers like plague.

@Phee wrote:

As per that post that EvilQueen linked to up thread, I’m currently TeamWizard, because the license plate clues seem to potentially point to an association with Wizard of Oz.

I’m hoping for a Wizard of Oz storyline soon, so I hope you’re right. Would you mind explaining what is the Wizard connection with the plate, as I have no idea what it is. Thanks

[ceege]

@NONNIE wrote:

@ceege wrote:

Just speculation here, but I’m wondering if the accident was caused because the barrier spell works both ways – keeping Storybrook residents in, and outsiders out.

I thought the accident occurred because Hook, Gold and Belle are standing in the middle of the road having a fight. To drive through the darkness and come upon a bunch of people fighting in the road might cause a driver to try and swerve to try and avoid killing someone. The way people drive on my road they would have been mowed over like bowling pins.

Hook would not know what a car was, but Gold and Belle sure would since Gold had a car.

Hi Nonnie,

The whole scene happened so fast, it left me feeling “What the what?”. I had to try to reconstruct in my mind what had just happened, so I did not see what caused the accident.

[Phee]

@ceege wrote:

@Phee wrote:

As per that post that EvilQueen linked to up thread, I’m currently TeamWizard, because the license plate clues seem to potentially point to an association with Wizard of Oz.

I’m hoping for a Wizard of Oz storyline soon, so I hope you’re right. Would you mind explaining what is the Wizard connection with the plate, as I have no idea what it is. Thanks

Click the link in EvilQueen’s post on the first page of this thread and it’ll take you to the 4th page of the other thread. My post about the license plate is at the top of that page, so you don’t have to read the whole thread and risk seeing anything potentially spoilerish.

[timespacer]

@Gypsy wrote:

It’s definitely not a LOST nod 🙂

I do know that 2KFL is part of a mathematic equation for fractions.

Which equation is it part of? I don’t recognize it.

[Josephine]

I can’t imagine Pennsylvania having any significance. We’re not that exciting of a state outside of football and hockey…and lots and lots of woods. I wrote in the “Initial Reactions” thread that there really is no link that I can recall with The Wizard of Oz. I live in PA and the biggest thing I can think of is that he’s from Lancaster, which I can’t remember where I read that, and that the town is in the middle of the state, full of Amish people, and most people mispronounce it. I do know that PA has a lot of German decendents which might tie in with the Grimm brothers.

I’m thinking the plate is connected to Peter Pan. The 2k seems like take or took so the theory of it being “take flight” might make sense.

Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

[TheGoldenKey]

@Josephine wrote:

I can’t imagine Pennsylvania having any significance. We’re not that exciting of a state outside of football and hockey…and lots and lots of woods. I wrote in the “Initial Reactions” thread that there really is no link that I can recall with The Wizard of Oz. I live in PA and the biggest thing I can think of is that he’s from Lancaster, which I can’t remember where I read that, and that the town is in the middle of the state, full of Amish people, and most people mispronounce it. I do know that PA has a lot of German decendents which might tie in with the Grimm brothers.

I’m thinking the plate is connected to Peter Pan. The 2k seems like take or took so the theory of it being “take flight” might make sense.

Pennsylvania has the Dutch Wonderland Amusement Park. Maybe there’s a connection to that? Maybe he’s the White Rabbit who came crashing through town. 😉 😀 😆

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[antbee]

@KalliopeKisees wrote:

It appears Ethan has been an actor in several OZ related films. Could that also be a clue. I really like all the possibilities people are coming up with.

Antbee – Have you ever read the Sandman comics? I would love to see them bring the characters to life. My favorite (aside from Dream) was Delirium. She would be an awesome character to cast.

No, unfortunately I haven’t. I’ve heard a lot of great things about it though, and I know that there was a movie in the works at one time but DC seems to have trouble getting any non-Superman/Batman movie off the ground for some reason.

Hi AuntBee,

Thanks for the response. Unfortunately, I’ll have to wait a few weeks before reading it. I love how this show keeps surprising me, so I avoid spoilers like plague.

I really wish I could stop reading/watching them, but I have no self control at all. 😆

[evilqueen]

I’ve just had a thought. What if Rumplestiltskin ‘summoned’ the outsider?
Doesn’t have to be with magic, he could’ve called for him or something.
Why? To be his driver to wherever he was going to go.
He hasn’t been outside Storybrooke before because of the curse. Yes, he has the maps but from what I saw, they were actually city maps, not country maps so would still have to know the way to the city he wanted to go, not to mention having to drive on much much busier roads than those in town and maybe he just wasn’t that confident? Or even, he wanted to focus on an actual search, maps and clues, rather than driving? ( even as extreme thinking as, say, he suddenly spotted Bae in the city, while in traffic, as a passenger he could always hop off the car.)
When he crossed the town line, it didn’t look like he was going back to his car – he was kissing Belle goodbye across the line and it felt more like he was about to leave. Perhaps he knew the other car was coming to pick him up?

[PriceofMagic]

@EvilQueen wrote:

I’ve just had a thought. What if Rumplestiltskin ‘summoned’ the outsider?
Doesn’t have to be with magic, he could’ve called for him or something.
Why? To be his driver to wherever he was going to go.

I think the outsider coming to Storybrooke is a consequence of Rumple being able to cross the town line rather than summoning him. Rumple used magic to be able to cross the town line and “all magic comes with a price”.

He hasn’t been outside Storybrooke before because of the curse. Yes, he has the maps but from what I saw, they were actually city maps, not country maps so would still have to know the way to the city he wanted to go, not to mention having to drive on much much busier roads than those in town and maybe he just wasn’t that confident? Or even, he wanted to focus on an actual search, maps and clues, rather than driving? ( even as extreme thinking as, say, he suddenly spotted Bae in the city, while in traffic, as a passenger he could always hop off the car.)

Perhaps this is why he requires Emma to come with him. She is the only person he knows that has been outside of Storybrooke.

When he crossed the town line, it didn’t look like he was going back to his car – he was kissing Belle goodbye across the line and it felt more like he was about to leave. Perhaps he knew the other car was coming to pick him up?

I don’t think he was kissing Belle goodbye at that moment. I think it was more of a “I’m so happy. I can leave to find my son and you promise to be waiting for me when I get back, I love you so much” kind of kiss. Rumple, why why why couldn’t you step back inside the town line to kiss Belle?

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

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