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Who’s Jefferson?

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Two › 2×01 "Broken" › Who’s Jefferson?

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  • October 1, 2012 at 5:17 am #134918
    scaredcrow65
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    So when Emma mentions the hat’s owner, Regina responds with “Who’s Jefferson?”
    Is she simply trying to deny anything that could possibly help Emma, or has her memory been messed with? I can’t figure out if the scene is just Regina be a pain and trying to stay ahead of Emma, or something significant we should be wondering about. It seems like a weird thing to lie about!

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    October 1, 2012 at 6:09 am #154830
    ashez2ashes
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    It was a pretty weird thing to lie about. That statement felt odd. I didn’t know what to make of it. The whole episode felt a little off like that though.

    October 1, 2012 at 6:25 am #154833
    Killian Jones
    Participant

    I did notice that too seems like an odd thing to lie about…

    October 1, 2012 at 7:55 am #154838
    eastofthesun
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    That was a very odd moment in the episode!!: I think Regina has a stronger connection to Jefferson, and we will eventually see it: and she does not want Emma to know about it and use it against her…i guess only time will tell!!!

    October 1, 2012 at 10:25 am #154840
    Slurpeez
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    Yes, there’s more to Regina’s story with Jefferson than meets the eye. In the promo for upcoming episodes, there is a brief clip of Regina meeting Rumpel, and Jefferson is there. I think that could be when she was starting to learn magic for the first time in FTL. Also, I think she may have been playing dumb about Jefferson, because he knows a lot about magic and realm-jumping, and Regina doesn’t want to give away “state secrets” to Emma or the Charmings. She doesn’t want them to acquire magic, and she said it right before she found out Emma already has it. Also, Regina must have been surprised that Emma had met Jefferson and was trying to cover up her lack of knowledge about what happened in 1×17; Regina could be “saving face” so as not to appear vulnerable. Her default setting for 28 years has been one of total control and playing this pretense when Emma and Henry tried to pin the blame on her for events in S1.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    October 1, 2012 at 12:41 pm #154855
    Daniel J. Lewis
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    I think that Regina was lying. She never knew about what happened in “Hat Trick.” And I also think that Emma made a working hat in that episode, but Regina doesn’t know that.

    October 1, 2012 at 12:49 pm #154856
    antbee
    Participant

    @slurpeez108 wrote:

    Yes, there’s more to Regina’s story with Jefferson than meets the eye. In the promo for upcoming episodes, there is a brief clip of Regina meeting Rumpel, and Jefferson is there. I think that could be when she was starting to learn magic for the first time in FTL. Also, I think she may have been playing dumb about Jefferson, because he knows a lot about magic and realm-jumping, and Regina doesn’t want to give away “state secrets” to Emma or the Charmings. She doesn’t want them to acquire magic, and she said it right before she found out Emma already has it. Also, Regina must have been surprised that Emma had met Jefferson and was trying to cover up her lack of knowledge about what happened in 1×17; Regina could be “saving face” so as not to appear vulnerable. Her default setting for 28 years has been one of total control and playing this pretense when Emma and Henry tried to pin the blame on her for events in S1.

    Yes, I think she was just lying. There have been plenty of other times where it’s been debated whether Regina was actually lying, and most likely she was. Like in “Fruit of the Poisonous Tree”, there was a lot of debate on whether or not Regina actually had feelings for the Genie or was just acting like she did especially at the end of the episode, so I think Regina is just really good at lying except perhaps to Mr. Gold because he knows her too well and isn’t willing to give her any benefit of the doubt.

    That was a very odd moment in the episode!!: I think Regina has a stronger connection to Jefferson, and we will eventually see it: and she does not want Emma to know about it and use it against her…i guess only time will tell!!!

    I agree though that part, and a few other parts came across as odd instead of the episode flowing properly. So it wasn’t a perfect episode, but it was streets ahead of quite a few season one episodes for me.

    I think that Regina was lying. She never knew about what happened in “Hat Trick.” And I also think that Emma made a working hat in that episode, but Regina doesn’t know that.

    Yes, I’m not sure if they’ll get back via Emma’s Hat. I don’t believe so because I think they’re going to have to find another way back besides a hat, but I think that Emma’s Hat will be important later on.

    October 2, 2012 at 1:38 am #155006
    soulsurf7
    Participant

    Yeah that line threw me off as well!! I love that theory that Emma made a working hat!! It could be what saves her.

    October 2, 2012 at 11:46 pm #155183
    Gaultheria
    Participant

    The wraith got part of Regina’s soul, and the Jefferson memories went with it? Depending on what else went, this could interfere with her redemption before or after she gets the memories back.

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    October 5, 2012 at 10:21 am #155554
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    Jennifer Morrison clarified this for us in a recent post-premiere interview for TV Line. Regina was just faking so as not to give away too much information:

    Speaking with Jennifer Morrison about the season opener’s big twists and what comes next (stay tuned for that video Q&A), I also sought clarification on Regina’s “amnesia” when it came to the Mad Hatter’s alter ego. Or as TVLine reader Jennifer put it: “Was Regina faking it or messing with Emma when she said ‘Who’s Jefferson?’” The answer is: both. “She was saying she didn’t recognize his name, but she obviously knew who he was,” Morrison confirms. “She was just lying — the same way that she did in the jail cell, when she said to Rumplestiltskin, “Oh, [Belle]‘s alive?’ And he was like, ‘Bulls–t, you knew she was alive.’” Such fleeting fibs are part of Regina’s bid to “cover her tracks a bit,” says Morrison, now that the mayor’s evil ways are exposed. “She doesn’t want to reveal anymore of herself than she has to.” http://tvline.com/2012/10/04/mentalist-once-upon-a-time-true-blood-revolution-spoilers/#more-368694

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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