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April 14, 2012 at 12:29 pm #134201englishwatcherParticipant
We know the characters are all from Grimm tales (yes even the inspiration for Alice in wonderland was taken from a Grimms tale.
Takeing the characters dual names into account. e.g. snow white= Mary Blanchard (Blanche french for white) heres who i think whos who please can i hear others theories (including possible new characters lets see if we are right)
Emma = possiblLY the swan princess
Mary = snow white
Regina = The queen (snow whites step mum)
Henry = spoiler look away if you havent figured the grimm link regarding Iron Henricht also known as THE FROG PRINCEThe wizard of Oz = new character to meet going to be called oscar based on the grimm tales the true name of the wizard is Oscar Zoroaster, brother of the evil wizard, the dark one, his name was on rumples dagger but i cant remember it
so august is???? …find the grimm character augustus
READ GRIMMS TALES PEOPLE AND POST YOUR THEORIES! X
[adrotate group="5"]April 14, 2012 at 2:28 pm #142190hjbauParticipantI really don’t want Emma or Henry to be anyone else. I think one of the things that i find interesting about their characters is that they are the next generations of the known fairytale characters. Like it is interesting to see Snow White and Prince Charming being parents and seeing their child and grandchild and that is their fairytale counterpart. Emma is just the Sheriff and a bail bonds person in the real world and in fairytale land she is Princess Emma, Snow White and Charming’s daughter. I want her to just be that.
April 14, 2012 at 4:57 pm #142205the wizParticipantThis morning I found searchable texts online for all the Grimm Brothers and Hans Christian Anderson fairy tales. Neither has the word “august” anywhere in them. Perhaps August Wayne Booth is simply an august personage or one who orchestrates august occasions for royalty.
April 15, 2012 at 3:20 am #142337charmingParticipantYes, Emma has a lot of swans but it does not necceassrily make her swan princess she fit an Alice profile. I really have no concrete proof but connecting dots to her being Alice does fit. She herself has no Alice qualities so much but then again there are many versions of Alice in Wonderland and Through The Looking Glass, some versions even combining the two.
April 15, 2012 at 3:46 am #142342hjbauParticipantI think the events of Alice in Wonderland happened before Emma was born though.
April 15, 2012 at 4:14 am #142350charmingParticipantRemember in Wonderland time does not seem to mean much. Magic, these are fairy tales. This is not time travel just another world. If you read Alice in Wonderland or maybe its Through a Looking Glass, Alice ages very quickly and near the end of the story, she’s a woman and not the girl. When she began as a little girl. When she went back to her world she wakes up a little girl again. The story is a dream like the Wizard of Oz.
April 15, 2012 at 7:52 am #142358PheeParticipantEmma certainly has Alice-esque qualities, but I think we’ll get an actual Alice on the show at some point. The illustration of Alice with the Caterpillar is in Henry’s book, which suggests we’ll see some events from the original story play out. Hope we see the tea party coz Jefferson drugging Emma just doesn’t cut it. 😛
April 15, 2012 at 10:31 am #142361englishwatcherParticipantSee post I know who Wayne Booth is.
April 15, 2012 at 10:59 am #142366hjbauParticipantAnd there may have been a time differential in the book as in Narnia where no matter how long the characters spent in the other world they come back at the same point that they left their world. And there may be a time differential between worlds. All of that is possible, but the Hatter was in Storybrooke and has been trapped their for the last 28 years, so i think that the events of Alice in Wonderland happened before Emma was born.
Also it didn’t seem like the Queen or Jefferson were worried about how much time was going to pass in the fairytale land while they were in Wonderland so i think that it is unlikely that time is working differently between worlds meaning that if you pop into Wonderland for a day, three centuries could go by in fairytale land. No one would risk that. And it seemed like this was not Jefferson and Regina’s first trip into another world.
The first thing may be possible, that no matter how long they spend in another world they return to their world at the exact moment they left. I don’t want that to be the cause because i don’t want Emma to be a baby at the end of this series. I like that idea as long as it does not apply to the end game of the show.
Though that does beg the question of how does the real world know about the stories from other worlds and those stories are old known stories in our world.
April 15, 2012 at 11:50 am #142376charmingParticipant@hjbau wrote:
And there may have been a time differential in the book as in Narnia where no matter how long the characters spent in the other world they come back at the same point that they left their world. And there may be a time differential between worlds. All of that is possible, but the Hatter was in Storybrooke and has been trapped their for the last 28 years, so i think that the events of Alice in Wonderland happened before Emma was born.
Also it didn’t seem like the Queen or Jefferson were worried about how much time was going to pass in the fairytale land while they were in Wonderland so i think that it is unlikely that time is working differently between worlds meaning that if you pop into Wonderland for a day, three centuries could go by in fairytale land. No one would risk that. And it seemed like this was not Jefferson and Regina’s first trip into another world.
The first thing may be possible, that no matter how long they spend in another world they return to their world at the exact moment they left. I don’t want that to be the cause because i don’t want Emma to be a baby at the end of this series. I like that idea as long as it does not apply to the end game of the show.
Though that does beg the question of how does the real world know about the stories from other worlds and those stories are old known stories in our world.
I agree with the time differential. Alice in Wonderland, Through the Looking Glass, and Wizard of Oz are stories about a character from a world such as our or even from anyworld for that matter; going to that world and later coing back probably at near the same point as when they left. Both Alice and Dorothy went to Wonderland and Oz via dreaming or getting knocked out by object hitting her in the head by tornado. I do not think it mattters when the FTL events of Hat Trick, we have agreed upon a time differential thing and now I am adding the, how Alice and Dororhy entered that world fact.
I agree that there are only going to be scenes from Alice in Wonderland or Through the Looking Glass because both books are very long. You can spend a whole season on each book and by the time you are done with those stories the whole polt of the show will have gone so far off the reservation. Wizard of Oz too. You can only do those memorable scenes that we all know.
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