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August 31, 2013 at 9:14 am #207350PriceofMagicParticipant
True love is the most powerful magic of all, so why would Blue Fairy split up Dreamy and Nova when they could potentially have true love? (It could be argued that it wasn’t true love at all, that it was going to end badly and Blue Fairy was actually doing them a favour).
The answer could lie in the fact that in Storybrooke the fairies were nuns. Why nuns? Why not some other sort of club or group? Simple, because nuns are seen as “pure” ie they haven’t had sex.
As far as we are aware, there are no male fairies, which means that the fairies consider themselves to have a higher purpose beyond human emotions and desires. Isn’t it funny how all the fairies are female and all the “Dark Ones” are men?
In the olden days, sex before marriage would make a women “impure” and damage her chances of finding a husband. The Dark One could represent a man who would steal a woman’s virginity without marrying her. It’s highly likely that there were (untrue) stories of Rumple doing this hence why Regina’s story about Belle’s “death” was so plausible. Belle’s association with Rumple plus the rumoured stories would make it seem like Rumple had corrupted Belle and made her “impure” thus requiring Belle to be cleansed by clerics.
So why would Blue Fairy break up Dreamy and Nova even though they were in love? Because love leads to sex. Snowing, RumBelle http://screwballninja.tumblr.com/post/59685616802/rumbelle-they-totally-did-it-essay-in-5-parts, Graham/Regina, James/Jack, August/random girl, Swanfire, Hook/Milah etc all had sex because they were in love or “love”. Nova couldn’t be a fairy and be with Dreamy because eventually they would have had sex meaning Nova wouldn’t be “pure” any more (would also explain why Nova rejected Dreamy again in GMSB even though she wasn’t a nun anymore but was still a fairy) and it seems like to be a fairy you have to be “pure”, which leads us to TinkerBell.
We know Tinkerbell is in Neverland (and with it being like it is, it doesn’t look like she’s a good fairy, and there are potentially other “bad” fairies around) so what seperates a “good” fairy from a “bad” fairy. A “bad” fairy may have indulged in carnal pleasure with a man thus making her “impure”. Tinkerbell is the only female amongst PP and the Lost Ones. What if what got her banished to Neverland was the fact she indulged in a little bit of intercourse so therefore couldn’t be a “good fairy” anymore?
To use a Grease reference, what if Tinkerbell is the Rizzo to Blue Fairy’s Sandy? Tink is described as a “party girl” and I can just picture her singing “Look at me, I’m Sandra Dee” but changing the words to “Look at me, I’m Blue Fairy, Lousy with frigidity”
Thoughts?
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Keeper of FelixAugust 31, 2013 at 9:36 am #207354RumplesGirlKeymasterTinkerbell fits the profile of being the “impure” one, that’s for sure. In the Disney movie of PP she is jealous of PP’s growing affection for Wendy. Somewhere on these forums, maybe in a Tink thread, Slurpeez and I got to talking about how Tink was banned to NL because she fell in love and wanted to give up her wings and wand and this was before Dreamy and Nova. Blue didn’t want to have to ban another fairy to NL, especially if she knew what Tink and PP were up to over there, so she broke them up.
I think you’re on to something here with the idea that Blue wants her fairies uncontaminated by impure thoughts and actions, though my headcanon still says it’s because Blue once had true love and lost it and thus banned all other fairies from having it but Blue could rationalize it in such a manner as you’re suggesting. Blue is incredibly rigid when she wants to be and I am dying to see her interactions with Tink.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 31, 2013 at 9:46 am #207355obisgirlParticipantI’ve been watching videos on youtube where there are plain sexual references in a lot of Disney classics we all love. That when you’re a child watching them, you wouldn’t think to look until you’re an adult and you go back and watch.
But I liken the fairies to the Jedi Order from Star Wars. They serve a higher purpose, to protect and serve. The fairies don’t really protect but their purpose is to serve the people of the Enchanted Forest, keeping the magic flowing and its residents happy. Love would distract a fairy from her cause.
August 31, 2013 at 11:09 am #207356kfchimeraParticipantI agree with Obisgirl on the Jedi reference (and we know A&E are big star wars fans!).
Jedi don’t exactly say love is weakness, of course, but the code is something like:
There is no emotion, there is peace.
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.
There is no passion, there is serenity.
There is no chaos, there is harmony.
There is no death, there is the Force.If you have a lot of power, as fairies and Jedi’s do, love may be strong and good but the loss of it can inspire horrible acts (Regina and Rumple are like Darth Vader that way). So safer to avoid the temptation, sort of thing.
I still have my doubts about the lack of doubt that BF was up to no good with splitting them up. The whole purpose of the story was to explain why Grumpy became so angry and annoyed at the world. Snow and Neal were in pain, trying to forget, because it was if you love, give them up. Grumpy was told you do not love, so get out of the way. BF agreed with the dwarf foreman that HE could not love Nova, but she doesn’t really acknowledge whether she thinks Nova might love Grumpy. We think Grumpy truly did though, since Belle is the one who talks to him that she thinks he’s in love. Yet is that what BF thought?
If she really believed after her hundreds of years of life that no dwarf could love, then splitting them up wasn’t her acting against love, is it? Then again, I really do like the Tinkerbell as a fairy who dares to love and there being backstory here. I’m still curious why BF does not talk to her “student” Nova. We know why George goes to Snow. George has already tried to convince Charming to give up on Snow, and knows he cannot force it. We don’t know why August went to Neal and not Emma. So some suspect a conspiracy, and same with BF going to Grumpy rather than Nova.
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August 31, 2013 at 11:25 am #207357RumplesGirlKeymasterIn the PP books, Tink’s emotional outbursts are explained because she is small, she can’t hold more than one emotion at a time. So she’s isn’t really bad per se, but when she is upset is 100% upset because of her size. Obviously A and E will take their own spin and given that Tink and Blue appear in Tink’s first episode, 303 I think their interaction will shed a lot of light on why Tink is in NL. Also, the title might be a tongue in cheek joke. Yes “Quite a Common Fairy” is a line pulled directly from Peter Pan, but it could be ironic if Tink is in fact [i]not[/i] a common fairy. And that could have something to do with her relationship with Blue and why she is in NL.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 31, 2013 at 11:57 am #207363PheeParticipantThe purity issue would make sense. I’ve also long been a fan of Blue having had love gone wrong, that doesn’t necessarily rule out the purity stuff. It could just be that whatever happened with her was the catalyst for how fairies became regulated.
Though I also like the idea that Blue just isn’t a fan of true love, because it’s the most powerful magic, which means it’s more powerful than even her, so she doesn’t like to encourage it.
August 31, 2013 at 12:07 pm #207366RumplesGirlKeymaster*thinks out loud*
Would a fairy who found TL be more powerful than Blue even if that fairy hadn’t shown much promise in the way of being a godmother or anything other than clumsy and rather silly? Because TL is the most powerful magic of all and if you take that power and combine it with a fairy’s natural power BOOM. Power to the max!
And maybe that’s why Blue banned Tink to NL? Tink fell in love and by virtue of the combined powers would be even more powerful than Blue? So Blue banned her but TL cannot be destroyed so Tink retains some of that TL power and is more powerful than Blue which is how she manages to get Blue on TeamPP.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 31, 2013 at 12:16 pm #207367JosephineParticipantI’ve always suspected that the Blue Fairy just doesn’t realize or like the magic of “True Love”. Rumple tells us repeatedly that true love can break any curse. That it is the most powerful magic of all. That makes it more powerful than fairy magic so maybe Blue doesn’t want to encourage anything more powerful than herself. That’s always been what’s in the back of my mind when thinking about Nova and Grumpy.
We’ve also talked about the possibility of maybe Blue being spurned in love before and nothing good came of her loving someone. Maybe a conflict of fairy magic and something else, but she’s taken steps to stop anyone else from making her mistakes so she never promotes the use of TLK or true love.
For some reason Blue really doesn’t promote the concept of true love.
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August 31, 2013 at 12:28 pm #207369HappyEndingsSpectatorI think that the BF is dying, and wanted Nova to replace her. After all how long can a fairy live?
August 31, 2013 at 12:28 pm #207370SlurpeezParticipantI don’t necessarily agree that the Blue Fairy is the most powerful being, just the original magical being. For example, when King George cursed Snow White to be barren in “Lady of the Lake,” Lancelot said that fairy magic was not strong enough to cure her. There are limits or laws in the very fabric of fairy magic itself which prevent fairies from being able to help in some cases. Snow White needed the powers of Lake Nostos, which did in fact restore her fertility. So, if the water from Lake Nosotos is more powerful than fairy magic, then true love magic is certainly stronger still.
Also, I don’t think the Blue Fairy is against true love in principle, since she did help Snow White rescue her true love, Prince Charming, in “An Apple Red as Blood.” Also, while I still think the BF is sneaky, she claims to be on the side of good, which would include true love. In the BF’s opinion, what is good for one, however, might not be in the best interest of all. That is why she discouraged Nova from pursuing a romantic relationship with Dreamy, because being a fairy for some reason is mutually exclusive with being celibate like a nun. In “Dreamy,” the BF said that if Nova pursued a romance, she would lose her wings. It might just be how fairy magic works and not the BF necessarily being a prude. It might just be whatever laws of fairy magic at work and the BF was reminding Nova of how it works. Either chose to be fairy godmother or chose to be a normal mortal and have a romance. The BF gave Nova the choice, and Nova chose to remain a fairy. The same thing happened in the “Good Morning, Storybrooke” segment; Grumpy tries to convince Astrid/Nova to run away with him, and again she turns him down because she wants to remain a fairy.
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