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August 31, 2013 at 1:09 pm #207374PriceofMagicParticipant
I think that the BF is dying, and wanted Nova to replace her. After all how long can a fairy live?
Funnily enough, I think Blue Fairy’s actress has said something similar to that in the past.
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Keeper of FelixAugust 31, 2013 at 2:25 pm #207383RumplesGirlKeymasterBlue is at least as old as Rumple and very probably older than him. Being the original power, I would guess that is pretty old and most likely immortal.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 31, 2013 at 4:27 pm #207403kfchimeraParticipantBlue did not give Nova a choice, she gave Dreamy the choice. I thought that was odd. And when she did it, she did so in the context that Dwarves CANNOT love, not that it was true love and he had to give it up.
So I don’t know that she’s “against” true love because she wants to maintain her power. She may not be the most powerful thing either, but I can’t wait for the Tink story as it might shed more light on Blue’s attitude. Was she trying to do them both a favor? Yes it is sort of a guilt trip but she doesn’t demand or threaten.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
August 31, 2013 at 7:07 pm #207415RumplesGirlKeymasterBlue did not give Nova a choice, she gave Dreamy the choice. I thought that was odd. And when she did it, she did so in the context that Dwarves CANNOT love, not that it was true love and he had to give it up.
And this was one of the biggest problems I had with Dreamy and then with Blue. She made it seem as though it was totally impossible for Dwarves to love. And in the normal case of Dwarves maybe romantic love is–but not love. Those Dwarves obviously love each other (they broke Grumpy out of jail after all) and they love Snow White to the point where they give up their work and become her personal guards. They are capable of love, so why is it such a stretch for Blue to believe that Dreamy could love Nova?
Also, Blue talks about Nova’s dream to become a FGM:Blue Fairy: I’m Nova’s teacher. And if the two of you run away together, it will not end well. Nova will lose her wings. But, if you return to the mines, and if you allow Nova to become the fairy that she was meant to be, the two of you will bring untold joy to the world. Nova can be a great fairy – if you let her. The choice is yours.
The beginning of the episode does not make sense in comparison to this quote. Nova is anything but a great fairy. She’s sweet and has big dreams, but you can see by the look on Blue’s face as they sit on the clouds and Blue has her doubts and doesn’t think Nova should be allowed near any wand.
Blue Fairy: Because, next year, you’ll be doing this alone.
Nova: I-I’ll still be picking up dust? I thought I’d be a fairy godmother by then.
Blue Fairy: Oh, Nova. You really are a dreamer
Why this sudden change in Blue, believing that Nova was special or talented. From her interactions with Dreamy, doing her job, we see that Nova is still clumsy and dreamy and not exactly FGM material.
So when I went to get the quotes, I forgot that Blue said Nova would lose her wings. I think this ties in nicely with some things we were saying a page back about Tink and Blue. What if this happened before–to Tink. She fell in love and wished to give up being a fairy, Blue condemned her to NL where Tink grew bitter and resentful and aligned herself with PP and sought to get even? This puts fear into Blue about fairies who fall in love (my headcanon that Blue was once in love and lost it–when her TL became the Dark One–is still here; I won’t give it up until told otherwise).
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 31, 2013 at 7:21 pm #207420JosephineParticipantBoy, RG, you’ve got a lot of headcanon rolling around in that noggin of yours. 😉
I thought it odd, too, that BF was so keen on Nova apprenticing with the her even though she’s clumsy and inept at her tasks.
Really, when all is said and done it always comes back to the Blue Fairy. I do wonder if other fandom sites blame her for everything as much as we do. Does she have staunch fans who aren’t suspicious of every move she makes, like we are. What’s hilarious is that for many people the distrust of the BF comes from Rumple, a villain/anti-hero/anti-villain/whatever you want to call him, who himself is not a good person. 😛
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August 31, 2013 at 8:55 pm #207442kfchimeraParticipantI do think BF has been used pretty conveniently, and therefore, if it is picking between “she’s an evil mastermind” and “the writers were sloppy”, as fans we are hoping it is the former.
That’s a good point RG, that BF doesn’t seem to think too much of Nova’s skills at the start of the episode, and then does make this special appeal to Dreamy to step aside. The other way to look at that though is she’s of the school of “hard teacher”, the one who never gives praise and pushes you because they know you need toughening up to achieve what you’re truly capable of achieving. I’m not sure, of course, she could just totally not value her fairy-slave-minion’s happiness at all in service of the greater good too.
The scene when Snow gets “air support” made it seem like there are a TON of fairies too, so why IS BF so concerned about losing ONE? There were also a lot of eggs to hatch (and like Screwball Ninja’s essay asked…what made those eggs!).“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
August 31, 2013 at 9:01 pm #207443RumplesGirlKeymasterI recognize that we haven’t seen this: but how does Blue react when Rumple kills Ella’s FGM? That’s another fairy lost yet we’ve never seen Blue react to this. Like KFC pointed out, she has lots of minions at her disposal for war so why does losing one fairy matter? Unless it is the way in which she looses Nova: to love.
Give the choice of “evil mastermind” or “sloppy writing” I do hope it’s the former but if it is the latter, I think A and E recognize it. Rumple’s line in ASOTM about how Blue just now thought up the potion to cure memory loss was priceless. Like A and E knew Blue has had a wonky season: not being able to break down Gold’s door with her good magic, but being able to turn August from a almost dead wooden man to a living normal boy, to casting a protection spell around beans. Her powers are all over the place.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 31, 2013 at 9:58 pm #207444PriceofMagicParticipantBlue’s protection spell of the beans was pretty flimsy. Regina got rid of it with just a wave of her hand.
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Keeper of FelixAugust 31, 2013 at 10:05 pm #207445RumplesGirlKeymasterBlue’s protection spell of the beans was pretty flimsy. Regina got rid of it with just a wave of her hand.
That is one of my points though: it worked well enough to shield the field from outsiders but all Regina had to do was wave her hand. Blue, the original magical being apparently, couldn’t use her own fairy wand to get rid of dark magic around Gold’s shop but Cora and Regina made short work of it with just one fire ball. And then Blue turns around and completely changes August into Pinocchio! And then manages to come up with some cure-all for memory loss, but apparently has been working on it since 302 when Sleepy lost his memories. Her powers are so wonky.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"September 25, 2013 at 8:20 am #211981tombo671ParticipantI don’t necessarily agree that the Blue Fairy is the most powerful being, just the original magical being.
If we base it off feats shown on screen, then yeah the BF seems pathetic in comparison to Rumple and the witches, however Keegan said in an interview that the BF was indeed the most powerful in all the land.
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